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Primetime Hour 2 11.7.14

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If you can find that time yeah. You can time the times didn't you ask who. Yeah right time were you guys against you for your home where they'll all the journalists and all. Big ask yeah. This is prime time to not and I didn't. Your source for the best and local regional and national sports. They're our eyes and brought in Jason's again a great prime time ESPN's sports radio and they beat those friends that night. This hour we'll not to be in here. For thirty. Well pick apart that Oregon Utah game. Then do some other stuff. But. Caylee for Cleveland lose against ninth with that in Denver. That. A playback to back. Well I don't know if they're gonna lose though don't you tell Louis two days ago to get those last night was casinos they've got tobacco I think that was thing the other day. I and are you rooting for complete and total implosion in the whole thing because it liken them but. I'd like to see it but I know it's not gonna happen so I don't I'm not wishing for there's no way that thing can implode. Not to the level of which yours no way that thing can implode Noll with LeBron James cart career Irving Kevin Love waiters trees and there's there's too much talent I can't wait for it to happen. BI. I I don't know why you say that obviously. He's kind of talent sometimes talent doesn't get it note to tell may not get a bit talent here remade its never get a talent release lead you to did you see the Utah game and all they I think I saw that it was the first time in NBA history. This team had. A hundred points. And I don't know what the next lowest was but they only had six is this a success and it's never tell him no one has ever scored a hundred points without. Opening six assists on side that's were that's awesome it's I don't also scored a hundred with seven. But you would think with a hundred points that there would be more than six assists but somewhere John Stockton is actually with glee. Who knows what happens but I for 1 am reading for complete and total like I want a Cleveland. Cavaliers the night lot later brawl. At center court of the game where LeBron does. It's so pissed that he drops carrier ring woo LeBron has said that the the carrier ring exchange after the Utah game it was a very fall as after the Portland game knows that yeah that was after the Portland game. We're supposedly they get the they had a talk today city you can't keep buddy doing an aggressive tock. He claims that it was very falls they did not they do not teach you that think that everyone on the team would just listen to LeBron. Like they should even have David black does let LeBron pick the guy knows how to win championships he's the best player in the world just get out his way does know. Billy says big LeBron was the best player in the world this is skinny sickly LeBron he's got the bowlers something so anti steroid LeBron as the anti stare at this is Tiger Woods' post even five iron in the ground game I just really like. Drama with queen James it's just fun. Time no fight at times I'm just totally rooting for implosion. Came to Cleveland he did the right being Kevin loves good. It is turned into a less of a the of that do you she guy had nothing wrong I Kerry got the wrong you document Lomas. VO I think those years in Minnesota. Humble humble him and yeah it's a little bit here looks so different than he used to feel. It looks great. I was completely wrong on Kevin Na I. I kind of would like to see Kevin Love do well yeah he gave you do nine in your face he was the yeah but he is an aside I really well and you only said that because he's white. Should be under some plays. Not the most athletic white guys in the NBA yet because that works out so often. The guy every and then himself he lost a member of the first year or two in this or he could get off the bench. Used to be was a role player for the the worst team in the NBA and give the guy credit lost a bunch of weight develop an outside shot the guy turned into a beast. Seems succeeding Cleveland. He had nothing against him of the and carry it seems like a decent guy no I don't think if you are associated with LeBron James in anyway and I'm rooting against you Terry. Very mr. black that after your great. I now the other team in Cleveland is really. On making some waves last night. The Browns. Beat the angles 24 to three NBA and Super Bowl champs a mere. If there. Her hot in Cleveland. But she we take the Hoyer led Browns. Seriously now because they dismantle them. Their best start since 1994 by the line. Find seriously. Now playoffs. Yeah outs. Super Bowl well. Playoffs not Super Bowl blatant. Der der a good football team meager six and three they've got wins over. What New Orleans the guy win a win over Pittsburgh and now win over Cincinnati. You know two teams their division that that people were gonna consider. Solid playoff team so white kit you. Why can't argue and they got a good ball because. I think you could say maybe they're just it's just like the other teams and it felt like they did the shines them not Dallas yeah we thought they were the best team in a scene they're not. So I mean like these two teams go on runs announces I. It's not insane to think that this is just they're just not there not that did they don't. They nicely under they play Houston Atlanta Buffalo. Could easily win all three of those games and then Indy tough Cincinnati Carolina Baltimore. Look you get a win. I think there absolutely. A serious playoff contender right out and see this uncommon and you know and it's not a fluke. Mean there's a Jason mentioned there's there's teams they get hot and or me one knots and they suggesting that anything is a fluke in the NFL you get hot you get high you credit for that but you also it doesn't mean that year just also an elite team all hell no and amassing as we Cleveland's numbers are near an elite team. But you heard it when Ewing games in the NFL period Cleveland should be taken seriously if you're gonna take Dallas seriously here you're gonna take Cincinnati to take Pittsburgh. And and we're all Baltimore's another one that people take seriously then you have to consider Cleveland. Kind of in that mix I don't think that there really I don't either wins we got there I do now I do have their schedule right in front of me. Let's go through here they lost to Pittsburgh game by a field goal week one. The beat New Orleans. Loss to Baltimore by two points memorable. Beat Tennessee by a point. Blew out Pittsburgh thirty went ten that was kind of the death blow Pittsburgh for the they rebounded. And then here's the bad when they lost to Jacksonville moved when he for six moved up their ass kicked by Jackson at it's I believe is Jacksonville's only win you know when I mistaken. And then they beat Oakland they beat Tampa and now they beat Cincinnati Tampa. Now in high. Well see but Andy Dalton had one of the worst games and cornerback history last year was eager he just decided that the he when he didn't wanna play football anymore did you see the play it was. Awful you are in you do in the show him but he he was rolling out to the right. And the play broke down so he's just honest I am a little bit and they have little fake purple line and it is it is on scrimmage yeah. He's over it by like. Three or four yards a mean way over at any site bouncing around out there like Fran target like he's gonna zip a pass any throws it. It's like oh my god did you have any less awareness of where you are on the football field and that one's making the rounds is a did you see that people killing the red right C glad that the did I was watching it live in here a little might go. Video clip of that is making the rounds it's always in place and people making fun of him well he well look I mean he deserves he made time after that performance that I got Detroit they ran out of the back of the end zone he. That Orlovsky or Cox gave. Action and not what got a little bit out of the back at the end don't like a good yarder to you right that you thought this this line doesn't count these these lion receivers have it's like one of them. The most amazing things in football to me is. The ability of wide receivers. To get their feet down your body awareness to her awareness on the sidelines and it seems like it's. Just kind of an aid in most of them up is really amazing to me. But course but cornerbacks. McCain. Close enough to three yards all of them thought I was good looks like its kind of like with Brady in those guys that can feel pressure you know like that's. Amazing to meet pocket presence here guys that are really good at it. That's one of the most amazing skills and he's very subtle and if you not paying attention to you can miss it. But Tom Brady Montana has this Manny hazard of the many doesn't really looked fluid when he does that he kinda. Crow hops but it it's still effective but the ability to slide shift duck. Out of the way a pressure that even though you you shouldn't really be able to see you can't see it it's just kinda you just feel deal went over there at citizens arm isn't nearly as. But anyway don't there's any don't. And in their Xenia don't and he was ten of 33. Last night for 86 yards. An average of two point six. Which is better than to put on and three interceptions that leads to a quarterback rating. Of four point three. And if you had him on your fantasy team depending on how you score he had negative three points. Well look you can choose to look at Andy Dalton's performance as a glass half empty sort of thing yeah. Seeing Wong I admitted she used to see any don'ts performance as the glass half full at stated simply Andy Dalton is already in. Playoff mode. That's where were at this point and that's how would a professionally he has worked halfway through this season in this guys act like it's playoff time. That is the greatness and indeed all. Funny. Think that there are some also wanted to say about them all on it was do you see what Jimmy Nielsen. Gathered at the he's like out there on Beckett. He said they were with me was they were worse than he thought they had they yes they better than yes somebody asked Jerry Gil the running back of the angles he said. Were they better than you thought they were you say actually they were worse. Than we need ideologues Tony who injury handed in the game. Public the hype is only beginning because it if they beat Houston and they can't be he's been doing right now it's gonna be their quarterback going forward. And he got Atlanta for that game. Now that's at home that cynically Cleveland now this season's going to be off the vine they can beat Houston now. I Atlanta is awful and that's at Atlanta but Atlanta still sucks. And then you gotta go on the road at Buffalo which yeah that's gonna be a contest but. They can win they did they can conceivably. End not not far fetched B nine in theory yeah. They won't be you know but if they are or even if there are in there just eight and four and get ready for the Cleveland Browns I've a year behind. We did last year was the year of us talking cleave the hot Cleveland Browns talk we need to go back to it. Might Cleveland Browns what would be being here in Cleveland as is texture asks Browns playoffs or cavs in the finals cast. Doubt it. Yeah may be a football town with the return of LeBron can. What about the Browns in the Super Bowl. Room and Eagles Super Bowl. Mean Cleveland and Cleveland best rounds and see who runs and morning and he knows him. Mean did the cavs be in the finals would be great but you can mean that city happened the Browns in that game. That would that would be unreal and everyone if you don't have a rooting interest you would have to be Poland for the really yet and you plan. Doesn't matter Cleveland in the Super Bowl Leicester play in your team you have to be like the Royals in the World Series yes. That's the Royals in the World Series is you keep me to Cleveland Browns after living their team ripped away from them giving it back all the crap they've been through. And now Mike Helton and Brian Boyer the into the Super Bowl and damn right your route and form Mike Patton. It was like their ninth choice while and whose daughter made fun of him for taking the job. Yeah after he took the job the daughter was like FaceBook either tweeting out making fun of her dad for be in the head coach of the Cleveland brown. Even if it's Browns Lions. Who that's no I wouldn't want to that be the only suitable but I would much. The universe implode upon itself and a super Glendon a tie. Everybody loses be the first time that B both winning and losing cities riot after considerable. It's their burning things other defensive deterred if there was a right there no one would notice that it's the Tuesday defense is to drink a day we want it. Our rights uncle ran comes next and then we'll cut to being here in their fifteen minutes we'll get there really into that Oregon Utah matchup very interesting down there and Salt Lake or would be over there. Pencil it gets down and over down and over there Yonder. Like that out there there a piece. For sixteen on it and. Prime time when guys against Duke on ESPN's Sports Radio sanity of those fans. All right that does several things to get in here. And then double B it will cuts here in ten minutes. Let's. Very sad news the root them noticed their last night do woman who. Was saying I stopped the game because and she. Did the medical event in the stands the woman was 67 years old she died today. Emanuel. Hospital and Alexi Manuel hospital near you get to know Watson on TV that just from the look on and on everyone's face that was a serious thing. And I guess she was over as section 111 this season ticket holder northeast corner of the by the arena those don't know where that is and she just was slump though Verner. Intercede and you know so there's some commotion and then I was especially reading up Joseph Freeman did a piece on the doctor one of the doctors to. Tried to administer CPR couple doctors for their became to her. Rescue early stride in ready to administer CPR and the paramedics got there and they Carter rather but. She make it also very sad. But how about this for a shocker which is more shocking but Alex Rodriguez admitting steroid use or Janus Winston. Having his little. Is little hearing delayed. They officially delayed it or do they just ass forward to be delayed. I think it's been delayed and that I just heard that they had asked for to immediately that it no that'd. Refitted actually gone through they're talking yesterday his little hearing that could getting. Suspended. It's a two weeks now and November 17 KG a week at the numbers and it would have been east it would head. In three games to go during during the season and the ACC championship so. That was a bit surprising because if that happens. After the season's over then. Has actually know buried because it's not a criminal proceeding. This is just like from over the school like the school code of conduct the school could suspend him for gamer even expel him if they wanted to. So as long as he gets through this season unscathed got turned pro in this has a sin no bearing on whatsoever so. If they can delay this. It really takes any sort of staying out of the out of the process like you're right it wasn't immediately clearances here and used in a cauliflower C officials would grant the Valencia's attorneys asked for the for the -- in the attorney said that did the accuser had months and months and months and months and months to prepare for this the the attorney did and they've only had a short period of time in Winston is obviously had a things on his mind and I cleanly but that's the way he Sharon's been this crab legs. Crab legs no not sitting down and playing football and double on tables apparently still going to school and screaming ends and obscenities sure he's on his way to a phenomenal Florida State degree. Whatever the hell rec management he's taking out Carson Palmer got a new deal today I'd look at him three years fifteen million that's unbelievably the guys 34. Yeah but yet have remembered deals arm and arm what year it's gonna give the ladies they audience days they're starting quarterback he's getting a lot of now yeah I mean sure it. It's so only comes out I think because it's an extension. They said that the average salary ranges between fifteen and a half and sixteen point six million dollars which. Is. Kind of good the going rate for starting cornerbacks. That's not that's not we're not elite starting lead starting quarterback second tier guys out and so immediate pipe which in the middle because the elite guys or twenty plus the average starters or somewhere in the 910 range than the middle guys are right where he's at Alex Smith is in there yes I think this is is probably a fair deal he gets what twenty million guaranteed. So this kid turns into me a one if you wanna do you a two year contract with twenty million in guaranteed about ten mil per guarantee didn't. So this is probably a pretty fair deal for for both of them considering his age did you have a Carson Palmer and needle Carson Palmer. And in close down nine Colts would rather have done ranked ten in Hillary and film. Oh lord. Young what am I gonna go with Ryan Channing hill group and I don't know any Dalton is better than Ryan ten any ill but here's my theory gets the I've been kicked in the junk by a horse so many times. That if I'm gonna get kicked in the junk again just give me a different animal get kicked by the donkey this time. I don't think you're getting there at NE dot. I Oregon State fans are saying oriented fans got a little bit of that in them but I don't think you're gonna go from a horse to I don't get the you're gonna go for more forested. An elephant kicking you in the chunky if you if you lose Mike Bradley. But if you're if you're Cincinnati I don't think you're ever gonna get there then you don't I just I think you should cut bait and certainly keep your quarterback of the future. At least with ten hell I don't know what the future holds. Did the president may be a little bit of a step backwards but I still don't get to my goal. And may with ten hell he develops into some of the can get anywhere need to go where is Eddie don't always think we'll have the roadblock seems like an awful long justification. You know what the more you have to talk and try to just kind. Thought they can bail on star if you if I do I get since Manny I get their team via I get a good team yet he gets antsy Derek and I know. Would you take Mark Sanchez or any film. Oh gosh I'm take Sanchez. Need to Sanchez has proven with a good team around him and NAC title game twice and it was not his fault everyone thinks that Sanchez has been like this. He said a crap for his entire career Sixers was a decent quarterback in new York and played well in the post season. Is look at all the look up his postings post season numbers and you'll be amazed at. How solid there and I won't because I know that they're sound healthy Jake Locker or Andy Dalton. I'll tell you that she decline and health BJ glove and you know Kelton come on help Jake lockers one games though I mean silly OK Andy Dalton stop with a. Do. News. In the ORG three. Or any on you lose that's a good team. And you don't. Over RG three. I've never I would take that's never been in RG three guy and I called that one it's like your your wrong half the time. Ether of these opinions but two guys and I'd never bought into. Were Jake Locker and Robert Griffin the third and I've already been proven right on on locker. RG three it's only a matter time he can't do anything when he can't run. And he was too small framed guy and you knew it was gonna catch up Tim ice that'd be four years down the road they cut it to him. Year one seed I don't know over locker and on number RG three to. And probably EJ Manuel. Is there anybody else. Starting quarterbacks now I'm sure there's like Derek Carr. Who. He's a rookie now because again I'll I'll go I'll go to the card thing because that. It's my ten health theory there's something there may be develops into something and I I don't think you'll ever win a Super Bowl and Andy Dalton. OK I don't think you can win deep into the post season with a up next let's stick into or again. Utah. Noble goal will go get our put pollen center Joshua Cox is running around here. I also stay right there. Primetime where advise against Duke on ESPN's Sports Radio 1080 Beltran. Thanks for 33 understand the sides concede let's get her the ball in center Joshua cuts in here and stretch out the ability or intelligence and he is in center and yes. Go football good as they landed at. About that. You are so dynamic time depart in Salt Lake City after the break and 8 PM I would grow wonder what lifers like television. Dry run an excellent. A few football Q and on the pats quarterback. I'd like not far off night or this. I did that for two years on it on the air. Helped the ducks a tape this this year taught team is do you lose they're very good Clark and help if you. It's not the ferocious defensively offensively. They can run the football out there remind me of an old kind of pac ten. Back in the 80s90s style a team that played awesome defense opportunistic and run the football you had a quarterback out there. They lose their big play receiver that's completely changing game for them because they're one dimensional running the football but. I'm telling you this storied team based upon what I've heard the people I've talked to they have the utmost respect for you tell watching them on film and you've heard rusty say hey you know Stanford not been taken away from Stanford to Utah's good you know and our coaches it's not lip service Semih I did anybody watching it that has that. Half a brain it's not you know completely just fan ammonium conceding Utah is a hell of football team it's going to be a fight. Gil Morgan look to these guys the film we we set an easy we said it before the Stanford game the bigger challenge is going to be on the road you talk. And and you look at it and it is is. Organs a better team in your father more complete team in Utah but it's still it's after an emotional win against Stanford he stuck to get on a plane go into hostile environment place they've never played yeah playing in front of a never ever rowdy crowds never count. None of these guys have never played there and you're gonna get a team that defensively can do some things against you and as at least one aspect to their offense that's really good. If you that passing game. That to me is is where organ would be scared that I think that's just is a huge advantage is that organs should be able to stack the box and see nine man fronts and dare. Utah throw adding on to that the other thing we've seen Utah do mean you watch a lot of games because they've been late at night paying as much as I complain about late at night games that we sits up that I can catch onto and I'm. I know much more about the pac twelve I ever have before because there on and I'm absorbing it. They run that zone read here and there whenever and his own read Iran as a Ream pop pass which killed them against or regaining it's Arizona's killed them last year you sit Arizona beat acres so. Seeing him do that before I'm not saying that that's the you know gonna happen but to go back to your point. It's something that has been kind of their Kryptonite so you see that DC is out. On awesome defense that no one really knows about everybody knows about Stanford's defense that you top OK they're good Utah. That no they're awesome in Utah and you tuck can penetrate it's it's not a huge physical front but it's it's it's not the U dub kinda smaller big guys they can map did they come after you hard and based grass don't lanes yeah a lot of. Their defense of guys they're divas of linemen I need orchard is that nation leader in sacks he was. Receiver in high school they go find you talk takes these guys and guys so people criticize we need him for this is that he thinks. What are the reasons why their offense is and isn't very good as he takes skilled offensive players box them up 3040 pounds puts him on the defensive side of the ball. Porsche was a receiver they put fifty pounds on him now is one of the best. This is the defense that's gonna start it's gonna attack it's gonna make big plays. But when you get an attacking defense and you have a style offense like mortgage you give big plays going the other way as well. And so that's to me is a big one for organ is he's yet got a pop a couple of these guys get and it softened up. Well let's look at it from Utah's offense there. It is Oregon's defense is no mean you know it's not a jerk them yes so. Yeah it got Booker they run the ball. And it got two quarterbacks have got they got a guy who's run first nine and they've got their passer in Wilson. Well and also scramble he Q did you learn to play like an ostrich that's the other I guess. Little bit of I don't wanna see concerned yeah I guess a little bit concerned duck fan should have or should see is that. We'll see you out there make plays that's something that's broken down the ducks' defense before the quarterbacks Grammy house of the pocket. So Stanford vehement Hogan wasn't this or the most effective guy but he kept plays alive plays on third down Sosa it says you know he just said. Well you know with Jersey Anderson now. He's their big play receiver you should be able stack the box and slammed book about what about the court Rex what about the dynamic there and their offensive line yeah but how do you defend what they're gonna do. Well I think yeah you know they're gonna to map Tino there and try to run the football action they have the big offensive line and according to guys I've talked to an insider quote on quote people. They have a big mauling offensive line the one way to beat that course is with the defense of on Mike Morgan says it's big making court is quick meant. Quick and fast enough to stunned siding gap through that big mauling offensive line off and then that kind of throws a whole running game often. I know see you can speak to this from an offensive line standpoint I'm putting defense in Vander defense of line. And I can kind of feel or he's going out lineup. Head up on him and I slam inside and I know it's gotta get mean he wins he turns around tries to figure out who's got to get another guy comes off his -- throw out pitch and he try to figure out who to block. Did you a couple of those to a team on the offensive line. The lines are trying to yell at each other hey did you see this what's going on they get to the sideline. Offensive line coach trying to figure it out so I look propeller on the try to confuse the offensive line for Utah. Create confusion and then this seems like a Joe Walker style game doesn't it has injury to Joseph locker going out there Macon you'd get I have to chanted as total tackles out need be put him in the middle there because you're gonna need a guy that's gonna be able to plug some gaps and you know he's a second leading tackler for again. Walker does that give. Did something he never really what I thought of as one dark target this gardens and artist and a bit of the ball a lot but I don't know how often you see Utah put the ball in the air and 2015 maybe you don't know what happened you talk doesn't do a lot of stuff off the edge you what she talks a lot of counter it's a lot of power that's in between the tackle stuff he's made a lot. The he's deceptive in the fact he's he's busted a lot of big play BC not the mighty dog Booker Booker. Can you see a lot of highlights he's busted those big plays hard gotta get down if you can contain them but then they give it plays into okay organs defense. Not always been able to contain guys keep an -- guy down but then again I'm gonna flip back. Every time we've question that this year they have made a stop a big powerful running back what do they do their they come up and stop them so I I think they're fired up or some of us are. Our running game they've seen this year he sees Stanford or Michigan is say this isn't the Seaver doesn't have a running around Stanford doesn't mean the Stanford's known as being a running football team Michigan State Michigan State was supposed to run the ball well against him and they really didn't mean most of the damage is done with cook Langford who was one of the better backs in the Big Ten really didn't do a whole lot against organ run the football bitterly it isn't this is by far the best running attack that they see oh yeah yeah. By far and book but is averaging five and a half yards Kerry's got eight touchdowns and it's a tough place to play in dusty now we're talking him about this last night on the football show intend to stand at 7 PM just in every Thursday every major station if you want except for. Thanksgiving. Now topic to have this and you're good not if you're on I would listen do you think you have to be in the bag yeah that's an affair. But if you look at it it's probably the third toughest place to player top three in the back of yeah right. Toughest places to play in the title will probably Oregon is number one by Oregon U dub you'd. SC's tough place to go down flattened at this point in time that I am right now toss up there man UUCLA yeah they seed in there. How many tackles is maybe fifty. They get rowdy they get after man. Lot of juice box a foot and a pair of products that the only. Know that crap believe it like everyone has this idea the Utah view I use the same thing it's a do or makes a good talent out leaky new day party at Utah you can have a good time Utah Salt Lake City I was stuck there for work for three months downtown. There's no quite well. They have the beer has looked content though for three months yet lived in a hotel it's scary how. Will remaining camera this. When what yeah what were you doing so I was working in the corporate America trailer around. Of for an okay so you did you go there and you're stuck there well I lived in I work in dealership in the city is so late so much they put me up and hotel for three months. Downtown on your own Al Amin had Dotel and had a really every night. Not ha though they call that via. Corporate America it is on the court on our car uh oh gone being out of southern exposure he'll. How did experience only northern exposure I was around. I experienced some places that would have been fun with it called me. By the way right circles just shy of 40000 they can squeeze and I think that's gonna be and beside this entire weakens going to be awesome for football you can come fired up for this but that's gonna be. A sneaky good game and it can be kind of ugly early on because Utah really good so this is it going to be. You'd love it appeared at fan becomes like organ does against Africa's in the first Corey knew it was over. But I wouldn't anticipate that leads the mileage decent typewriter I'll be surprised if for him blows them. I figured it might get 1020 points in the fourth quarter lead and sell it in the west we've seen the kind of like Michigan State or they go to school last layers UCLA. Something like that yeah. And regret not Oregon puts a whole bunch but. Utah has the Utah is really good special teams and is that that's something to keep an eye on not that. It's it's been a huge issue for him because they don't putt very often but Utah does have the ability take kicks back whether it's kick of returns or punt that one of the better teams that we're you know he needs a long snapper upon her and Charles Knowles and if that's all they need rank. Nobody else and that's it three guys and I guess the kicking mule the Vieira its guests on it should. By all talk about the rest of the pack the football college football weekend. When we return I would love that with a great Joshua cuts he has a huge upset pick. That he's going to give the OK. You did know that he will just come up with direct a full 44. On the fan. Prime time where the ice chicken soup got ESPN's Sports Radio 1080 Beltran. All right ten Joshua Cotts is in here a little known fact the biggest financial contributor to vote yes on marijuana bill that Brett. In the flesh and yet be happy. And I think man this is the zealotry and since he's the anti weed people out of here we gang that there we people. They're truly we know they don't care that the bill pass early in their probably just this that it. And nothing changed for nothing changed other than a may have gotten a little more expensive and it's harder to come by I don't know it's going to be harder to come by as an amateur that the guy had they're probably texting quite a couple weeks guys in Washington there are pissed because A got more expensive than in just the supply that. Because so many people were rushing to the stores to violate distributors it was a hardy it's hard to come by yeah I happen to leave for like twelve years and this kind of come back in big beard or something. Go on the woods. A business to get into men Nen don't. Billups does that I was watching the show last Thaddeus on Discovery Channel it's called like live free or die in its people that are just like it's a whole movement our order is yet people are just kind of checking out late just. Every DP I went through my own beer I'd be history to record go into the woods going back to nature yes indeed was for Matt and in only can his own little homemade wine out there doing in chimed in Leo. Hoosier big upset pick this week. Well he threw me on the spot I'm gonna go outside this wonderful conference we have here in the pac twelve but I'm good the SEC amigo Kentucky over Georgia. I'll I'll hope that I hadn't seen that Kentucky. Keep missing the state run for their mind they're better than people think they've been recruit well and George are kind of coming off. That shellacking they had they lose to Florida me. Every once and a while a team that has it that much talent puts it all together and team kinda good in their 90% think you know they're not gonna do anything that's what happens someone's gotta win the SEC west you know how strong do you think the pactel is. In terms of overall conference now second. Do you think that big twelve or behind eating it's close but two of the top top to bottom no. I think that Agassi if I look at all top to bottom. No because I think that depth wise in terms of words big gap and pac twelve is my. Shorter than it is say in the big twelve with Kansas and the dormant there staggering. I did you just call Kansas a doormat the well it's true but they might win this weekend Josh yeah. Yeah they're they're only a field goal underdog this week against you. Iowa State this is their chance this is a big ones winning game I guess he would like even I people talk about the SEC. Last game. And it's gonna Campbell ladies Helio are but they're so good in the SEC is it is the best of the best players is the best league period. But I it bothers me when you look at the pac twelve in the same logic. Of cannibalizing. Each other doesn't apply. When you talk and Arizona State and USC. And Arizona and even count on the makes you got 58 games. That have come down literally to the last play yeah. Right in amongst a lot of teams the mess in the pac twelve south right now who's gonna win that thing but then they and then you take that and you go well the pac twelve not that did. Well why doesn't the same logic apply these teams are all really they're all good teams they're just beating each other. It's at the end them in the race of the margin for error is so razor thin at. I think the tackles better than the big twelve yes it in and I just I feel like the pactel sort of getting slighted well this year because. In the south it looks like there really isn't one dominant team that you look at that sound of my god there's five teams that are. That are right there where it was last time a pack to a team won a title. You mean that. The bed the national type of guy and that's Mets where it goes to his all the teams in the at the end but I'm not even talking about comparing but this is incentives how people but unfortunately that's what people do so the first thing is SEC here right now eagle pac twelve and then the logic to your wife isn't the logic apply here is basically kind of your point right wise the logic of the pac twelve. Having depth top to bottom because the perception early on was housed dormant. These other teams aren't very good Utah shouldn't be very good so that kept that but that perception. That people still have its gonna be organ top heavy Stanford's haven't kind of this happier Washington's coming back is Washington so it's that pre season perception of your entire conference. Of people they South Carolina or George or significantly better than Utah. CNN because they kicked the crap out of a team the first week now and so the perception still isn't that day if someone beat. Alabama or Auburn or. Whoever else down in in the SEC that won a title and LSU where it is played them well. Okay then Derrek Lee and the big boys where is the pac twelve absolutely I think it's that in terms of top to bottom depth. It's that. Closest margin it's ever been in the last actions they ever had my SEC mean nobody in the PGA a proud member beyond it all well clutched. No in the pac twelve and last eight let's say you're saying that and good thing at the end they all start knocking each drop and write other overrated. There's a State's got an opportunity and they need to be Notre Dame now I mean if he's dead at the conference and that's a conference thing they need him to beat Notre Dame. Because Arthur and some people they're already kind of dismissing Notre Dame assisted now who have you beaten but Notre Dame Marty beat Stanford and if they beat Arizona State. That what's gonna be a blow for the pac twelve and and just for the health of the pac twelve. I think you wanna see Arizona State organ went out and play in the and the pack twice I don't get ran where you end up with like a three vs six or something like that. Well Oregon misses. Bolt Arizona State in USC from the south now interestingly enough they also lost to Arizona right isn't it. It doesn't it say something if Utah. Plays organ really tough doesn't that kind of help prove the point that the petrol really is the strong whereas if boredom blows them out. Then there's that it kind of leads you more to the line of thinking that it is a war again and everyone always in Arizona was a fluke but they don't have played all those. South teeny missed two top teams in the. I think I can answer that better in a couple weeks based upon because what we're basing all this upon it is what the end up final rankings are right it's not. Because in my eyes and what we're looking let's objectively absolutely but if they don't finish in the final four. Did it's a wasted season and an eagle and he even. And even if they have. Say they have won loss still and and they get beat out it doesn't happen but that's a wasteful season I've seen everybody. Well the season's over another team if they lose because their two losses enough plane in the final four Mike. You're kidding me their season is over there's there's four games left so I think the perception of what the organ is is it organ everybody else as you see Nicky. You know bill DeWitt at least show a lot of credit the loss to Arizona OK they're good teams so the eyes of that committee. I think they're giving that kind of credit that you want for the pac twelve I think the Ericsson but I think from the outside everybody else in all of the noise starts on Monday because now you look at this weekend TCU case there was a save mart tee I think said that the committee is looking at the big tall strong and in the pack well. Because he's not because of dot com. TCU encased really sad or for one night ran 00 ops team that is it Oklahoma is up there to moments like seventeenth NB a there's like twelve today a 41 loss teams. You know if 31 loss teams yet his Oklahoma's immortalized in Oklahoma looks. And the pat told us to Arizona star Julia there's just there's a state and an organ now I India it who knows I just know that with this playoff thing and I guess. Is that. At the same time as we all wanna put our own judgments into what they're and who knows what to do and and that committee room and how their judgment thing and it's two weeks in so. As we start to every week we I try to dissect. Look I like to see when a team loses where they go. Because and I can try to figure that out a little bit more were only two weeks and this well let me state definitively I think the patch holes really strong really really deep and organs the king and it. But this game against Utah. Don't watch out you know it's a real kick in the shorts for just culture both. Ends in general is the you making a BCS game was he used to be doubt defined your season right in Mickey BCS game yet successful for a if you play for national Italian made BCS in a few good there 67 years in a row USC Ohio State even organ. Redness of the deeper players like. So that's a Tampa wants announcement NASA James is not a big deal but that used to be the consensus may two BCS game at a healthy year. You is there's still big bowl games outside of the college football playoff. But it because you step four games that you could make you could get a crack at night got to if you don't make those two games your season was crap. They. Even if you make it into a BCS game your season is still crap because now it's either a college football playoff or bust into your right. Not learning every day you're a lot of seats at Michigan State for exams in states on its like playing the Rose Bowl last year I didn't play for a national champion went to the Rose Bowl beat Stanford. Arguably the best season Michigan State has ever had in it was a game changer for Michigan State Michigan State can have that same sort of year undefeated except for losing on a broad. 21 of the top four teams in the country organ. Still got a BCS game not going to be the Rose Bowl because the Rose bowls part of the plan out the let's say they go play in the Fiesta Bowl or they go play in the Orange Bowl. BCS game one of the four biggest bowl games undefeated in conference back to back conference champs it's the first time in school history. Top five team in the country in their season will be viewed as a failure because they didn't end up in the college football playoff so. Great as great as the cultural player playoff bids for a lot of teams. It makes having that quote unquote successful season. Even harder Holler nothing but I mean like that that five big games this week to have great teams. Mean whatever team loses that their seasons quote unquote now over over him. Yeah I think in Canada narrative and they complete narrative it's at that what's it like if let's say Kansas State loses and they went out the rest the year yeah it's a little lost interest in there that's when there is a lost season but it got no longer expect him to be at seven right now. Time. Well get settled content on putts so like your passion passion. Have been celebrating have you on TV tonight I am on TV tonight I'm on TV tomorrow morning and on Comcast sports and Comcast sports net Matt 8 o'clock tonight hash tag ducks I'm sitting in for York tomorrow on game day and then I'm sitting at home in the Wilcox me and he watches football they tomorrow tomorrow's immigrant. I might even tweak something now. Are right. At times thanks for coming in you guys got to see next week have a great weekend and saw that I can't wait for the chalk talk man important (%expletive) up that actually fourth. You get your tickets at an eighty that they and that confidence I'm nugget of information RIT hot 55 is coming up next on 1080 the fan.