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Aug 25, 2014|

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I'm just -- that defense runs. But here are very glad -- now I have found. Easy out and it. It's time good kick off. Okay. It's the. It. This is a college kicked off week addition -- -- for a third and -- lofty -- Ron Tonkin -- Portland in Vancouver's number one brand dealer college kids golf -- gone Danforth -- and spray and go on ESPN's Sports Radio Jay Nady both -- -- Big boys guys say it is college football kick out we get 130 will. You are wherever got a packed bowl commercials final week of those. Got five more left. And we do Arizona State's. At 130 and then the other northwest schools and -- -- Stanford in the northwest part of it and watch it stayed on Friday. Don't forget everything I did -- 130. Isn't and we'll be done no better under the current sentiment -- -- now we're out of order -- watching it roll ever show got I got rave reviews on Friday people like that in like our whistling -- whistle I was pretty money that he DNN they said you're listening to some point they loved it they enjoyed it. We -- and I still beats frank -- baseline what happens now pay any money. Hit the pit and doctor Andre gets money for -- opening -- -- that if you missed any of those. We will -- out at the media show -- to go to the AFC east for the NFL to date that'll be at 145. They're smorgasbord of sports topics. And that the hole is done a lot of -- lot of polls out there this one according to NFL nation in the chorus posed the question -- -- plus players. The only way -- play for blank team is if they double my salary. And so basically the least desirable team in the NFL number one it was the Oakland Raiders. Number two was the Buffalo Bills three the browns for the jags. And we -- not number five was the Packers which surprising however I think this -- middle of nowhere city you don't wanna live it's probably don't know clay and coupled Green -- was obviously -- Green Bay, Wisconsin rainbow Alabama. Packers are always good I wouldn't -- a living green made I'd rather play for the freaking Houston Texans in the Green Bay Packers -- -- it's. This list isn't surprising especially with the raiders in the state that they're in right now -- that franchise. But it's also kind of funny because when you start listing those other cities and you think about now. Buffalo I mean when am I doing in buffalo and freezing women doing Cleveland. -- -- the enemies like to play for. Probably Cleveland or buffalo via an Oakland a very close there. I don't Jacksonville Jaguars -- a lot of jaguars are number one on this Florida man I was pretty surprised -- o'clock to meet this is an accurate and I've I've read an article where they they asked Charles -- about this Charles Woodson said this is this there's no way this is correct have you been no Clinton will look I've been to San Francisco's -- I don't watch I never cross the -- tires up a car and -- data into. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Living in Green -- year round of thinking you're living remainder want you know trying to always -- agreement could still call there's there than the weather's the same weather as -- from cities city. Our next story here -- -- smorgasbord of sports topics this was long overdue. But Tiger Woods has officially split ways with his swing coach Sean Foley is tiger is a free agent he's back apparently -- See tiger said I'd like to thank John for his help as my coach has again won his gel hair show on days when you know it's bad in for his friendship Newton giant tiger said as one of the outstanding coaches in golf I know you'll continue to be successful over the players working with them. When my next tournament not and tell my world challenge -- minute miles worth in Orlando in December this is the right time to end our professional relationship. So I doubt tiger goes back to bullets he should. I doubt he will though but there's it was long overdue. You're going to see a new swing from all Tiger -- next year bowl prediction he's going to call Butch Harmon that's my -- Mueller will make bold prediction tiger wins a major next year. Stock OK that's very it's our -- extra re. We really isn't a re doing this now festival every time you guys don't maybe click -- -- the Grand Slam being tied Jack it's -- -- -- does stop every time you guys say he's worn out tiger you're not many signs. He fired his swing coach this is a -- Saturday in backing down the -- okay that's on you're not doing it the first step -- escaping the fact he's 38 years old -- masters Iran well at all but he's charming and it was their -- you mean no -- that you -- -- bush studied tiger anymore butch is a big name was but the tiger for. Credibility and now he doesn't need. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- But I'm not debating that whatsoever. Does it it's so funny whenever a storyline comes up about Tiger Woods we always do that aren't yet here -- No stopped and now he's getting tired movies coming out minute -- -- he didn't know he's gonna get healthy in the us he's fit and I. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And you just said Tiger Woods is gonna win a major next year and we wager something here committee gamble -- A sandwich try and let's -- other listeners to -- this suggestion of what did -- enforced penalties should be if or what are penalties because if if he was a major in my bets over because that's it so you'll win no matter what night and Dana we Jersey on my back that's my losing. So I -- or suggestions of what am forced penalty should be if Tiger Woods has not won a major next year and that's not on planet that can like this. -- -- -- his advance team is 00. No actually it's time to get those swing changes implemented it it two years thirty -- to -- no I'm not giving him two years I -- you -- I'm -- -- -- there yes tiger's group -- re uniting his support the guy the one -- went out he's -- -- college you and me we did have a gait time -- over the weekend our buddy Carlos Ortiz who joined the show on Friday we talk with him. I got a little bit of Obama from our show any end up winning the tournament he comes on the show he -- determine and it gets coincidence. It was fun watching him with playing over the weekend where he got on the zone one that's I mean it's an attack you -- after -- DR's best deals on bravely made fun of -- side. We tried a little bit we try to lock on with the at a future the PG aren't we know look he's a big -- re tweet at us which is a pretty big deal. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- had this in Orange teen USA twenty threes like that cream sickle Jersey on. I tweeted a picture this kid had no sun protection yet know at all in the -- -- -- speed up. As a he'd be friend did. Carlos Ortiz is mom with -- and so he tagged along the -- -- he's related desert and he tagged along the entire way with her and he was going. All of it all that's not a good shot it is -- goes quiet quiet he's he's trying to -- smoke seems quiet quiet you doing an Asian accent you know what kind of efforts so I don't let my nose my quiet decent. Into. It caused my golf course this father mother lay around and Diana talked into not gonna cause -- -- mom on hole sixteen we talked the entire way in. And -- only four tournaments she's been out all year we became good friends congrats to -- it -- it was a fun tournament somebody -- major one agent didn't win that we would have voted for -- this region need to get home we didn't want somebody yelled at the end for dirt and sprayed with his network now thinks what and now there. Probably would've went out. -- had -- isn't known as the next week three years -- state to the bottom of the hour. Nearly as -- -- in -- there is break served up I'd be dubbed on to need to. This is college kickoff we've done Danforth third -- sprint -- by Ron Tonkin dies on ESPN Sports Radio 1080 uptrend on. We'll try brings back some sound from Carlos Ortiz when he is on our show and when -- -- -- -- open tennis picture of how that wins bring you Oregon last week obviously whole group back together taking some bets on if tiger doesn't win a major next year. Texas says I think after us having to sit next to a Porta potty. Punishment should be to hand clean -- on a construction site. That's a pretty silent auction right there I like that and -- hero game down and dirty and scrap that thank Lisa and OK maybe a little over the line I like a suburb -- challenge that's a good when I like that can we agree on a Salvador -- live probably without giving away our location yet we do. So I Portland -- loss -- right they are next in the new sound and remarkable couple hundred yards away Indiana building across from the complex is there. -- all yet from ardea. -- -- a suburb Ali's got to give me location blood there's not an abandoned building it's not class neighborhood and got. Lots spread people I'll miss that on Friday it was are -- -- they change from apartments to loss. Wait that's the -- -- young women laughs I would have appreciated you refer to them as such. All right preview of Arizona State at the bottom of the hours college football pick up we will start to freeze some of the games here's the week progresses and AFC east preview what's our but the chargers today at 145. So that's old news and notes 2.0 addition fee vikings have decided they're going to start Matt Cassel over Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback. And again I think a lot of this is getting Bridgewater. And some just time on the bench to kind of take everything in. And then that my guess is that they start out slow bill insert him into the lineup similar to what Jacksonville made you. And he's -- new -- these -- -- union -- but Minnesota Vikings -- coach Mike -- named Matt -- -- starter for a week. One yelling this is the right call if you Minnesota he had a lot of people look at them as potentially a team to compete for a wildcard spot may be in the NFC north I don't -- C -- slot behind all three other teams in Chicago Green Bay and Detroit. Not they are the you know -- have -- pieces and their close Minnesota's close but -- -- -- needs to pan out the last thing you want to do is run him out there early and how loses confidence and that's why I love when teams do this kind of step it's the same thing -- about this over the weekend. Would no rookie quarterback starting in the NFL this year which is kinda neat we haven't seen that while. And it's the same thing -- how many true freshman coming in college you start right away is true -- most time guys are redshirt for years of behind an older guy for year obviously there's different systems there -- you know OK guys could be gone leads a senior but. It's the same thing any NFL I never quite understand the needs it to thrusting guy and they are we what are we to. After a couple -- loses his confidence Minnesota's not the best situation for a quarterback -- -- the vikings but Matt Cassel he -- good veteran he's gonna get you through probably six wins herself. And I find if that's your year then that's fine get another high draft pick next should you plug Teddy bridge Larry moving forward no need to push him into the lineup and in the first couple weeks of the season. And insulting and our profession if you get to point -- ten years and he's a good veteran. It -- that he's a great reason I -- well I think it's good veteran guys buy this and this is the move they said they were gonna make. They stuck way that I watch -- elect one of the games and he played. Mean they're looking that impressive stat lines haven't been overly impressive but. He's somebody with potential with the town skilling has you sit him for maybe half a year a full year Cassidy -- stay healthy they're not going to be very good anyway let him learn the playbook a little more load learn the system. You gotta get that experience without playing it where its work wander wonders with a lot of quarterbacks in the past. Aaron Rodgers the first one comes in my mind with Brett Favre for the 34 years there. Let him sit down let them soak it all up week to week learn what real life is like in the NFL studying week to week is like and then put him out when he's ready. Yet this has been a train ever since 2008. Basically where you started Seymour -- more rookies the rookies that year Matt Ryan and Joseph Flacco bulls started their first game the following year Matt Stafford. Sam Bradford. And then in 2012. Injury like Robert Griffin the third right contain -- -- brain and we all started their first games of the last six quarterbacks rookie quarterbacks. Dating back to Cam Newton have all started. Their first game -- in 2000 levied on a couple of guys Jake Locker. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Is he's got veterans you'll start them see how things go worst case scenario you could reinvigorate your fan base. And putting any rookie -- to see how thing. And then and the thought process starts in my not ready adamant not to cut it in the NFL might it be about it you don't let that thought process to taking you pick and choose the spots he went and played it's it's a great strategy for a new head coach of Minnesota. It would be different if you didn't have serviceable backups but Matt Cassel and -- your serviceable. Backups are guys that can go out there and they're not mean they're not to be great but they're not going to go out there and flounder and and just via a total disaster they're guys that can go on at least run an offense and not be overwhelmed. In doing so NFL news and those 2.0 addition Richie and got -- At former Miami dolphin is visiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Monday is his first trip to a team's facility. Since the Jonathan Martin bullying scandal called a scandal Donovan Martinez landed himself. In San Francisco and looks to be starting there in -- and -- -- you know find a spot with Tim bay Buccaneers we can move past historian get out of their life. But I eight -- surprises Seahawks and take a chance on him in if I were an NFL team I would definitely. Bring in reaching kind. It's funny because that conversation happened I'm -- -- in this whole issue was going down -- and we were talking about is Smart week using kind -- bully we have to talk about that for weeks on end that was kind of our ERR squirrel mentality for about a week or two this was the only thing that we talked about. But apart of that conversation was who gets a job first -- both of them were -- -- economy was let go mart not BC left the team. We talked about it would you rather have the data was bullied into it people could look at it as as weakened -- where the guy who was able eating cotton ego. Because it according to our reports and everybody it's actually -- needless to better offensive linemen so. I was a little surprise that he didn't get a chance earlier that this at and Martin -- mention he's gonna get a starting look at Sampras Cisco. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You know slurs and land values is yeah you don't wanna take it too far but looking -- -- -- -- a good offensive lineman he's guided. He seems to be remorseful if you will over what happened and he did the interviews we try to protect his public image I would be shocked at all he gets a spot. Tampa finding my quarterback to be protected I wanna big dumb idiot I'm hiring Rick Jean guy knew right away I'm putting isn't starting lineups. -- -- -- want him tell me when yet that's what it is as the NFL as these coaches get fired after one bad year they get fired after two bad years they don't wanna have a terrible season you gotta do anything he can't win that's the culture of the sport that's what unfortunate about it. When you talked about that incident with Martin in kind need -- Part of it obviously was bowling how big that's grown in in the country around the world. But another was the culture of the NFL on where rat right now it is a win now mentality. If you have a potential all pro offensive climbing up they're reaching -- I knew that nobody wants a touch because you don't wanna bring in bad publicity. A liar Richie got -- don't help your team when. All games -- other story here spray when you're out last week lay beyond element here -- want lower a one of them Libya on bell was arrested charged the misdemeanor -- -- -- money equaled by the way that I saw what was the quote I didn't know you can get it do you live from the and I happen. -- -- Steelers coach Mike Tomlin reiterated today that they will be punished after getting arrested for the possession of marijuana. Shortly before the team flew to Philadelphia for a pre season game they did play the pre season game -- atomic towns and everything is on the table. They're the only running backs the Steelers have on the roster who have NFL Kerry's self. We'll see how hearts. Maybe they sustained blunt for the first half as Dara -- beyond help for the second added incentive act we started suspended the first -- -- -- -- there's no way they suspend all these guys for -- extended period of time for marijuana. Is now not -- -- I don't see it -- -- -- -- -- -- fine -- all of this has been an issue a -- -- mean basically going back to his -- days this is you know it's elegant evening news -- I was very indicating yes it absolutely was that he enjoys he enjoys the -- sticky -- mean -- what -- do about it -- do you find him to -- -- the Steelers just -- we -- -- -- -- -- L -- priority number one of these -- -- to -- I mean ultimately they don't care as long as an -- -- -- -- they'll come and and they -- didn't turn out to be a good running back tandem that's all you can ask for the Steelers and I I don't expect him to get a big suspension. How about Mike Tomlin is reaction at that press conference is very telling and -- -- kind of reaction is somebody that smokes marijuana that hasn't been got. You know real player in the game when we get as many -- possible. I don't really care about since -- it's not a big reveal these idiots are driving in the car team is tired right for the NL locker room as long -- on the field when that's all that matters we preview Arizona State and play our commercial for them what to look forward to in the pac twelve south -- people overlooking them. And very strong possibility they could emerge as a pac twelve south as usual time but Arizona State next -- Joey was sports and Dan towards third and -- -- served up by Buffalo Wild Wings on ESPN's Sports Radio 1080 of prayer and. Well. I didn't think he had it and you're on the hunt for better. New. Some -- this -- don't feel pretty. I -- with you holiday update to dip with we started the game we never got to finish. Play for blood remember. I was just look about how wasn't the song and from across the -- He's been informed. That we have no one spot left for fantasy football draft on Wednesday seemed very -- like Disney if he -- your league. Well like being involved text draft. 255305. Will be at Deloitte district buffalo wild lands on Wednesday at 7 o'clock there's going to be fun drafts I'm fired up. I am suitor you know I gonna go to you first pick. Now here we needed just mock drafts I think and so -- Which is important in life yet the enforcement doing mock drafts Nancy -- yet unknown. Lose and number two and our Nancy baseball league and our guy. That's not right one game this season has congrats to days of the best record on one game ahead of there. In our -- -- -- not only has got to pick your players I computer generating guys look we do need to discuss because we have three different. We needed discuss our strategy here and how we're gonna do this the -- get around one draft and I don't have any feedback. So we're just all on our -- -- patronizing I think we have the clock for everybody and were individually on our own in -- only stand -- we're previewing pac twelve teams we've got five more of these to go we saw how Washington Stanford. Oregon and Oregon State that's because today. Is the Arizona State commercial here this. Why drive the Sun Devil Stadium on Saturdays so many tickets available every weekend we're just eight. Split a single ladies first lowest when he -- the herpes given birth to your everywhere for his lowest -- -- Items sold the bathroom for just two weeks we dealers on site with a Jamie look at where his lowest eighteen. Hours apple -- given for. And school -- for just a decent football team with a good chance to win and Todd Graham wearing a Britney Spears salads at. Every home game guarantee. From inexpensive to sort of the best in the south you've got to go to. -- Sun Devils dot com now. Issues. That is fantastic mostly -- -- -- It was outrageous on you -- you're gonna go that angle I will never forget those who. I'll never forget those cover you you will if you have its and there are a lot of fun to watch it's a motivation Arizona State let's take a look at whether they have this year it's in at least for me schedules standpoint. They've got three cupcakes to open up their season it's Weaver state New Mexico and Colorado now and I have anybody need pre season it's ever going to give them any kind of real test that they hit that got went of their season four games in a row UCLA. USC Stanford. At Washington. Those four games although long blamed determining where they finish in the pac twelve south. And where they finished their year -- they miss or again this year that's a positive for Arizona Steve but -- team. You were looking at UCLA is winning the pac twelve south I wouldn't put it past Arizona State to win the pac twelve south and surprise a lot of people yeah I mean. Look Todd Graham's one of those coaches nobody seems to talk about is one of the upper Echelon guys and you look what he's done in his time since replacing Dennis Erickson. He's had success he's turned it around he got on to a point that they hadn't been to before and and getting into the -- title game he he's got a lot of talent there he did lose a lot of guys on defense. But you bring him back Taylor Kelly which for organ state -- -- one player coming back at one position that they've been hyping. Arizona State has the same thing he got a three year starter Taylor Kelly. Hit a very good season last year doesn't -- very under -- they lost marrying rice to the NFL but based on DJ -- through almost got a thousand yards he was their second leading receiver. There's -- -- got some pieces with Todd Graham you make fun of more time because he abandoned Pittsburg -- kind of an awkward situation he does where the -- headset on the sidelines he's. -- it's -- really blame him for that really now why can't come on all of spearheads a little Italian -- -- the more and more aware and radio we each have our own little quirks of things that we like and don't like with microphones and headphones that set -- no hot -- we all have different there's songs on right now is for the Britney Spears lives concert not. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- An epic games approach now he's a trend setter what I want now and he's got. And it doesn't mean he can't take time senator and his trades and everybody else would be doing a potential -- go down the senate is on track and -- no problem making fun of it but. You figure slightly when you bring up Taylor Kelly he is it just talks about and I know this is kind of a re occurring theme we always bring this up. But it just tells you how deep the pac -- is this your ticket nobody's talking about it Kelly. Last year hours -- 3500 yards 48 touchdowns on some pretty darn good year you mentioned third your starter he's a mobile quarterback he's immobile quarterback he had 473 rushing yards and eight touchdowns last -- this guy is a good quarterback but you don't look at him I mean -- where does he fall in the rate of -- QBs fifth may be fourth. He's behind Mario and he's behind -- about behind John Maine so. Best case scenario he's the fourth best quarterback in the conference it just tells you how deep they are. And then in terms of strength is scheduled this is why I I look at teams even in the south where you're at Arizona State becoming your pre season 1988. If what you mentioned the first three games or cake -- they're gonna start three you know. But just look at the way the schedule plays out after -- home against UCLA at USC at home against it for. Washington home against Utah they should be able to wind and they got Notre Dame that app Morgan State. That's a bit that's a tough -- sketch right there -- with Washington State and Arizona you should be able to win those games so the -- there of your schedule. The five you know the beginning India and should be winnable but the seven game stretch you have in the middle of the season. That's where you look at you say its three losses in UZ -- my USC Stanford Washington Notre -- Morgan State Utah there's three losses in their somewhere for Arizona State it's not a knock on them as a program. It just shows you how hard this is why when you look at the -- look at the SEC. I'm tired of that conversation -- about the SEC this is it hard conference late to get to. It -- eventually if you make it say they win the south did you gotta go play at Stamford or organ in the -- championship game. Don't forget on Arizona to their last in the army you're looking -- the dollar right there where full Manny is 55. Of the six games counting Notre Dame in there. I mean this is not going to be easy season for them but quite as a -- -- he's been very generated nobody gives them the credit of the do that he is that he's done in the last couple season with this team. I look at them as a legit contender to to win the south there's a lot of question marks down. Yet it is -- here's some of their stats from last year they were 33 in passing fortieth in rushing so not not gonna blow you away with mirrored yards. Or they were really really good last year is scoring. They were top ten in the nation in points scored so if they're forty points a game DNA average around forty points a game they gave up a little more than that but Aaron Aaron when we preview the beavers game last year between Arizona State -- -- look the -- is gonna -- corners are aggressive. And there may lead they led the league last year right am I right in front of Morgan in interceptions. And there are very opportunistic defense against an inning outing insurgency by the way I think it's -- -- wasn't it was organized and yes a 46 they created a lot -- -- the house which was kind of back breaker exactly so. I like yes they have to get better on defense this year they did lose some key guys there but. As long as you've got your quarterback returning. And an offense and and a coach that knows how to use the weapons they have I I like Arizona State to finish. I actually believe or not I think it'll go US siege to win the pac twelve south. And I think Arizona State UCLA all finished tied for second in real impact also op idea I think that's how it insulated in them in the south I I really do I'm really I don't schedules and tough man yeah. And you look at the dollar today it was whoever can get through the -- obviously gonna have a better results but. Both teams have a huge. Play and a lot of games on their -- we look can he say. Can he get through that and all the toss ups and that's the tough part about this conference's. When you're thinking top to bottom yet you have -- couple bottom -- but the conference is catching up with all the coaches with all the money being flung around the facilities being built. You are getting to a point in the pac twelve where you can identify. For easy games and a schedule anymore it really is maybe two or three Guinea's. Within the conference the rest it's like question mark question mark question mark and that's something that some people thing's gonna hurt the conference when your time of college football player out. -- -- and it's a stretch of I know these are pre season rankings and who knows how this is gonna play out but you're looking at a stretch there in six weeks he got five ranked teams five ranked pre season ranked Team shares on a state that's just it's -- it it's funny to have a conversation is change and this is why the -- told -- now where it's at. Is look at the -- I remember a couple of years back the conversation about the -- south was it was Stamford and organ and everybody else to meet the -- championship game was this -- there was no need to watch it. The first year organ went to the it was the first should they ever had it -- blew out UCLA and New Zealand Ossetia and it was a 500 team at -- -- -- they -- is six they lost six Neuheisel left they still as they still allowed him into a bowl game because they lost the conference championship game. Is that like that anymore I mean you have three bonafide teams in the south that's not even counting in Arizona that surprised a lot of people last year. I just because of the way the schedule sets up I'm not quite as -- as on anonymous you are in fourth I look haven't -- third. As -- third in his office not a knock to me it's another eight for -- season which is a -- on top 25 into the year but just but that has scheduled the middle of the -- I can't. And to finish better than third programme has some nice -- -- I can understand headset hair I -- -- not -- -- brother worked here for us for athletes who had access programs -- yeah I forgot he was zero -- set up our -- we got a new system within our computers and he was one of the guys -- they -- -- Brothers Todd Graham. He looked nothing like -- and all right let's mr. -- is -- should've asked about the headset then. I like to -- I think it works for a Britney Spears and accessory has -- -- nice I mean disaster you can color the microphone or however you want I'm sure he doesn't components you know that's c'mon Todd -- and like it. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Nights -- back up. Everybody back there will be it was. My -- back. Finally the you know. Bob it's his college kicked -- week John -- and third and -- Lucky by Ron Tonkin diets on ESPN's Sports Radio Genevieve hello friends. -- -- As their last week of previewing NFL team is starting to ramp up our football coverage is college -- gets underway on Thursday. We will have a lot of -- previews like coach is audio as the week progresses. And makes it fired up for football to start some talking to -- San Diego Chargers will spend. Day talking about the AFC why are the week rather psyche about the AFC west we'll start charters in the pre season that's far they beat the cowboys they lost to. The Seahawks they lost to the niners manager finally able to score some points they did so against the chargers out -- the charges very scene that Eagles Evelyn pre season low -- and then finally able to Muster Sunni candidates wasn't. Was it it didn't -- and the Tennessee dip into game last year. But who recently -- That is done as the ultimate -- -- -- the full time of the past my. Ring of the past I guess somebody put me mine now on face value of the David said at the niners and the Steelers should start playing on the History Channel because they only live in the past. That's not Batman don't -- -- there and lock. I can't defend the niners Steelers did win win like three years yeah -- -- it -- be. They've won two in the last yet indicators about where if he were to whom I guess summarize how you felt or what you think about the chargers run since Philip Rivers has been there. How -- how would you describe the chargers since he's been well what would you not successful. For the most primal. Maybe not successful if you're talking Super -- that's what that word means but I'd say good as stupid person word. Good I would say it was good it went Philip -- as you -- OT good they've had their down years they held on -- north -- a little too long we all know that Marty Schottenheimer started that thing got them up to that level but Philip Rivers at the -- quarterback with -- -- and you charger defense is kind of an up and down I would say it's been pretty it beyond that he had seasons where they surprised people who remember the year they got the FC title game against New England. He came off the ending knee surgery a lot of people thought they could potentially win that game because they were the hot mile -- time in the playoffs and the ultimately lost LaDainian Tomlinson sat out the rest of that game. They've had their moments and opportunities. Clearly having gotten -- Eli Manning's got in that was the big thing is they traded him for right or I like Manny and -- get to -- what you what you got you can't expect to -- rule every year especially in a city like -- Diego where there's not a lot of as as there for free agents. I would say pretty good right now is like they're on the winning track they're kind of a sleeper team and a lot of people's minds are like with seen Eagles thrown up for the season will pick. A lot of people off guard last Germany looked at CDA in decent -- seven and nine how -- be able to compete that division especially with how good Kansas City turned out to be -- which nobody -- -- coming in in -- -- third fiddle in the AFC west but. Philip Rivers what was the key last Germany -- to turn -- around to stop turning the ball over you look at it look at his interception numbers last three seasons. Tony eleven through twenty X 2012 to fifteen -- The last three through eleven so that you're cutting down on the turnovers which is always been his problem his entire career he's got a little too much Brett Favre and I'm just not what would without the success is now the rain. And it tell you get that you look at it got to constantly takes reticent constantly throws interceptions and costly turns the ball over. He's again this guy went long term can he be -- answer. He -- a lot of fans over in San Diego we mentioned earlier in the show talking about him playing injured and playing on the on the one week ACL. Surgery and he browse a lot of people -- these trash talker. I love them personality wise is -- beast -- not quite -- in my in my sweet spot if you willow I don't I think gunslinger I -- I was I haven't ever been I've never been -- on gun -- quarterbacks but you look at theory put together -- you go -- night and seven surprise some people. -- not the Bengals often the first round of the playoffs they destroyed and they destroy the bank was -- inequalities he will remember by the -- made the playoffs yet you don't really they lost and they when they lost that Denver in the second home for seventeen and in the high passer was Philip Rivers were 217 -- out through. Many in that game we just didn't quite have the pieces around him. To get a win there but they went into Cincinnati and we want the -- 127 to ten I would never it was kind of rainy gloomy day. Neither team was able to throw much throughout the air but San Diego now this year. As once again -- on the spotlight there once again on the map NFL wise and you look at them as a team that. Look it's a tough division besides for the NFC west you can make the argument may be the AFC west is the second toughest division. Would Denver being a Super Bowl contender Kansas City -- they had master and then San Diego lobby C so it's a tough division. But not you're looking at that once again is a team that should make the claps this should be it seemed it's at least able to slot into wild card. Gives city should take a little bit of a step in in the opposite direction they took last year. And now the pressure back on Philip Rivers he seems to thrive in those situations where you don't really expect a whole lot of them they catch -- guys have -- you make a run in the playoffs. Now the spotlight is once again on him and people look at it San Diego and -- they should be ten in six at least nine and seven this year if you don't live up to the -- how many years -- you allow that to go on after San Diego. Their toughest teams this year for the chargers will probably be week -- they host Seattle and then the second week left in the season it's December 20. There at San Francisco but other than that there -- out of conference schedules pretty easy buffalo Jacksonville the jets. And the dolphins. As the rain m.s at the ravens which could be tough there. But -- outside of the division they've got some pretty easy games so yes as you said there. They should be able to make the playoffs once again this year some people think Kansas he's gonna have a down year this year not be able to at least. Have the level of success and the chargers could potentially fill that void. But I just I'm kind of with humor is not multi slash your daily media they were getting used to -- last year my -- their first loss of the young season -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- They are fourth the senior charters are in passing last year and thirteenth in rushing. They finally got their run game going with Ryan -- he's he's been injury plagued from most of his career -- that -- would head helping out. Last year's or Ryan Mathews has been kind of -- guy that's under achieved a little bit in his career I am Bremer watching you Fresno stating that guy's going to be a beast in the NFL. And they took they took him what they're a first pick in the first round pick and he just he never has really setting -- announced concussion is a lot of things -- yeah he has -- stay healthy he is 26 years olds are you expecting a big year if you're charged him last Syria and over a thousand yards rushing but only six touchdowns and really has twenty career touchdowns on his career 3700. Yards. On his career so you know if he stays healthy you're able to distribute or split carries between. And Ryan Mathews and you continue that balanced attack you like to charge chances exploit. And here's a question -- -- about teams like this and I cannot throw Philip Rivers in the same conversation is that Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford I learn how to Jay Cutler yeah a lot of these this second tier quarterbacks you look at across a leak. Saying they come out and even if they haven't figured sitting on nine and seven make the playoffs and lose in the first round how long is a San Diego fan as an organization do you allow Philip Rivers to do that you guys believe that he is suitable potential is that I had some target franchise is getting word I mean he's been around a lot has not like he's -- he's been hurt. And here's how I -- so I think that's no no matter in which you lose him like people on Cincinnati look in -- Dalton and there -- has its fair share supporters but I'm sure their people that are Bengals fans that say. We're not winning on the quarterback -- -- quarterback away from being a Super Bowl winning team. I don't look at the charges say they're super -- their quarterback away from me Subaru winner I would say. They're Ryan Mathews staying healthy food there are more consistent defense Philip Rivers I mean guided the AFC title game I think he's shown that he can -- to do that point. He just he didn't have his best player at that time which was LaDainian Tomlinson you don't have help it's really -- he. Finally yet your pointer in the hardest question is what's the alternative like are we willing to you because I you can be frustrated with all you want. But yet again yet to ask yourself and it's. And you can't always run your organization by what's what happens if we let go he can't run it out of fear. But there is you look at some teams in the NFL -- that have never. Recovered. When guys leave in and it's hard to replace particular guys especially if you think Philip Rivers is a top team quarterback. Which he's borderline to me being yet you have to keep around my at least I think so I what do I what do you think people's perception is of still prefer. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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