Our next guest is a senior writer for espn.com. A graduate of the University of Washington Jim -- joins us on the unfortunate news today -- Tony Gwynn passed away at the age 54. Jim what was your first we first heard the news what is your your immediate first -- I'll just real certain that means it's all American. Probably be the status had been about an epic iron to Kirby Puckett. And it's. Tony you're such a great great I mean is a fantastic player but he was even better off field. Units usually among the absolute. From me it's nice to discourage you could ever ever me. And if it's just it's incredibly that. Jim what we we've heard so many stories today and so many people come out just share their fond memories of Tony -- in some stories that they had with him are there any memories that come to mind of you you've covered the game for a very long time and I'm sure you've been around him are there any memories you have a -- with him that stick out you. How he had deployment to open the Monmouth -- a must first want it was my first returning back in 87. And you've just been batting practice and our partners and there was that was the -- -- and I went after -- -- -- Excuse me mr. -- did you have a moment and -- immediately. It's shouted yeah opposite obscenity laced a compensate though I read this law. Did you busy blah blah blah. And I started with DOE and and he immediately keywords that I'm just joking. I'm sorry and he knew we had just a great interview and we always did and I walked which assuming. So happy and promotion and he would talk to him and over the years. Every time a doctor and he was. But it was just incredibly gracious funny. Very insightful. And that's my editor. Michael nightly once wrote for the sporting news he made the mistake of talking of in -- anti immigrant. When he didn't have all -- talked. He would go on and -- he received just anyway you're like -- watching the clock broke out there ever shut up I was like. This is just wonderful bullets -- so. I guess it's and so on Ian insightful and and and and Smart and had so many different things to say and it was ball incredibly interest and you're always a delight to talk to you and was always very. Very very happy to opt to use students treated everybody insists they were -- -- -- -- You know I just what 3141. Minutes which is probably 110 the number of friends he made during during his career just just an incredible. You know Jim a lot of superstars in their respective sports it's all about themselves and they're only looking out for themselves but Tony Gwynn and and a lot like Tim Duncan is since he won the championship I think an impact in the same mold of kind of unselfish athletes who decided take less money stick around and play for organizations they truly loved and cared about. You know what kind of set him apart because you have so many ball players. That look out for just themselves in the financial details in getting the big league contract and going to the next big city -- What was it about Tony that kind of set him apart from some of the other stars during his era. Well I think we're when when my supporters go for the there contractor -- there's just the -- would want to want to be that there are looking for. A big reward and I don't limits were to order. Tony you argue -- -- wherever oil was -- It confused. But I think he also loved playing in San Diego. Played there in college student. He's from the it's from Southern California and this is what he won he won it wanted to beat and he also wanted to show loyalty to the two departures. Eight treatment made -- -- those. Ugly awful. Mustard and ground -- uniforms that. You were you instrument this about that and now it's. Speaker as a participant that he. He was not only just mister proctor and he was mr. San Diego and I mean he coached a Chinese state and humorous. News -- are great guys who really identified with. The place where he played and especially him and he was incredibly special to San Diego and anybody else there -- -- Parker's. Jim Capel is our guest you can buy and on Twitter at Jim people's seat AP LEU is a senior writer for ESPN dot -- here. Import turns -- Tony Gwynn passes away today after a bout with cancer at 54 years old I thought your tweets it was really really insightful I thought. When you talked about who should be the ambassador of the game and you said he that it should be Tony Gwynn oh why do you think that. Because he was he was so good to everyone he came across CEG and isn't -- a number of great players at that now that. I've dealt -- and our our would be wonderful people to represent against her but to meet Tony was. Always so good and he always was he was such a court fees -- based on it didn't matter critics are going to. The good guy at any random moment. You know you -- -- it's been a you know you're always occasionally -- integrity -- not a good mood. That's where people are but Tony you your chances with him in a good -- were always pretty darn almost cost a 100% -- guy who was always going to speak. All of baseball. You're always going to be. Representing just. -- that the best appointment in new York and he was a great hitter news. Real atrocities studied the game so much I mean he he watched more video of insist on deeper combined didn't he was one that the first. Players to do that. And it is straight and now everybody don't at a course in prison much more opportunity -- -- -- stations -- now. The suggestion replica of which are difficult. But he was just a great ambassador in that he played it well he played a great great and any time any but he. We're in contact with them he represented himself in the game as well do you want purists -- is always that guy. GM actually it's been an entire radio show -- reading off the accolades and in the in this statistics that he piled up and his career although the gold -- silver -- the batting titles the all star appearances you know hitting over three under for nineteen straight years. It's all unbelievable in and he's obviously in the conversation is one of the best hitters of all time with the likes of the Ty -- in the Ted Williams stand usual George Brett some names come to mind. Where does he rate for you in terms of the best hitter not just for power but just the best all around average hitter where where does he rate for you in that conversation. I'm sure you just talk about all around Albert sugar orange is to be repaired their out Ricky. Revolt and quite slippery anyway it would with two strikes such and they -- -- seat at the it is at the top. Among. His generation and student. Another purpose -- it may be able to better paperwork for Brooke army ago terrorists just you know tremendous but. The sort of longevity for twenty years to be doing. And somebody which I forget where -- smokers to step was who had the highest batting average over the last thirty year. 35 years with two strikes and -- and at the highest average are far. Next 100 bark. But Tony out of there like forty courts. He's just. He had he had such a science and studied -- of watching film. And talking to people and studying pitchers and this was. He took it to an extreme and back then that now is the norm. But cute I started and he was. -- successful than anybody ever has planned to use. In our gain weight as -- -- you don't buy whatever we was younger delegates are pretty good speed and too as well so you must. It was just minutes put. Jimmy -- knows better and anybody being such a great hitter any kind of aging and you watch him physically age. Did you ever have moments where he kind of spoke out about steroids and that Paul -- Eric having come up through there. Having the success that he did but seeing other haters gonna. Garnish more accolades and attention -- him because he wasn't juicy like everybody else. I know Larry I never gonna talk to about and he got an urgency and bad about anybody that. Another note about there was -- -- I mean it really wasn't a discussion. During his his career wasn't until after he retired eventually -- -- talking about. Would you retire his number. Yeah into the -- solar. Altered our psychic on primary rhetoric. Yet I was now we retired based on site. All. Pro baseball -- Know our our. And I wouldn't do that I mean it's. I mean to be being. Jackie Robinson source because what he did you personally are -- what he did it wherever we're he'd given united Tony it's great -- -- I mean there's that it was an investor. Eat. It's. I think there's too much too much cuter. I don't think we should do that her or anybody got a projected. So I would -- -- as much as -- it's as much as are -- -- to orient to corporate personally Rashard. I don't think that's that's really really required to. Jim table as our guess is a senior writer for espn.com. He's a quarter -- in Jim -- CA he -- do great stuff we appreciate the insight. And all we get to be here don't -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The duo -- qualified Delaware that are that are actually good or not I just still can't figure and a. You can attack Atlanta guy now I get here soon it's not about the most more uplifting and positive news -- Yeah right definitely. You know -- said they -- Tony that. Figure out about you do -- about. Beat apps. Absolutely thanks again -- we really appreciate the time.