Feb 9, 2017|
Plenty of Blazers talk after the win over the Mavericks & with CJ's heroics, raises the question: Dame or CJ?
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Because they had those peanut butter cookies back injured Sprague for like less and their deaths reckless dear to. So it kind of guy he's today at 3 o'clock sugar high no cookies today so I had to go in search of my sugar high and I found a jelly bellies and there's simply delightful. Sifford a black one knows that thing all about I believe that's Blackley courage yeah why is that even in there. No one eats that sort of trash that does he like a couple at a time and once not in their ruined the entire handfuls did you think Blackley courage. Is. Like the shining example. Of how we evolve past terrible things yes I'm sure one point Bakken like 1814. Right black lakers was the height of candy rats so they act. We even beyond that there was even there there even used to be a question of red or black China. No no more night in question and now we don't choose black Jack come knowing even Langley British they may likely person. I think it's probably one of those now the items kind of like fatal dog poop knowing only eat black yeah. A lot of Linux say republic courage. Dude yay you know liquor yeah fallen down the power rankings are there red broke yet. Well we've evolved a jelly bellies but it bothers me much good stuff out there and then an otherwise delicious pack of jelly bellies that you give me the black with Chris what the hell is it that no one. It so when you think that the world. Is going south now. Or even at this weathered appears as if it's ending because it does appear to be popular apocalyptic type weather geek but I'm who could speak he does. When you have these shots just remembered. We are Smart enough to evolve past black liberation but. And that she give you hope this is what I say to anyone within that wants to rain on 2070. And I get its feet aren't. People are scared or any it well just inject rob say just modern night. No the video it's the world's worst and ever and my answer to that is no it's not it's better than ever you're right there's a black and maternal death right away just. That thing goes straight to help push. At no point would you wanna go back in live and any other time the world was amazing yeah we have problems. But we had problems in the eighties. We had problems in the sixties we had anything beyond. Like 1950 just blows but no one was happy look at the photograph from like nineteen Twain do you know smiling. Why because life sucked. Anything beyond that. Even worse there's a reason why every old time T photo you look at they just look like they wanna die because. They do you know I think the hard artists about this. Because they say that the world is less violent. Depending on. In other words the more easy amount yes the more you realize that we are getting better slowly. But surely got in it's less and less violent enough eventually. You know little slip stream big may do we can rid the world of violent what my favorite thing is that we may maybe not. Maybe not Jason when you talk to kids now. Look out and I know that like race and I let me dream a reality you're here you're gonna hot cakes and I got hot to air base guy had takes suddenly were on a hot world. And not be so bad takes. Well I mean this is the jelly bellies dropped looked to the jelly bellies and find him sitting right here actually meet two and a five as well now. I don't know about this white and green speckled wanna know sent to prison to the table. I know you told me away. Have not taken ninth or else my son of a gun. Why was bringing up drivers because he said a little bit it's getting less and less violence of may be were just were lower we're trending in the right direction again it just depends on how EU's have to zoom out a little bit to understand like to your point hey how about this collect the thirteen hundred that's not so good I don't like it nipple you won't so I didn't Billy Joseph senate does the good old days weren't always good in Temares what is bad is it seen there were very young. I'm country yet he's whole scheme of things they're Jason skin. But. I think the problem sometimes lies in the fact that a lot of people. Are Smart enough to want to expedite the process cap like they see it not okay let's this this. Were were you know were behind on this issue that I don't you let's go let's go I'm ready. And work that way it does not where exactly because not everybody has the same starting point. In society have to move as slow as your slowest person that's right is that that that's that's what sucks about now is that many of us citizen you're gone cannot. But you know. We're we're just we'll right there when you were holding hands are like turtles were holding hands and we're gonna keep Colin forward. I was speaking and at a school yesterday and asked talking to the principle and he brought this up and I couldn't agree more. As we're kind of talking about just you know take from the prince politic for the principle in this was his point and I thought it was a very good one about world order. Just kind of an Indian. And that's what got the best way to promote what he was talking about he said that when you talk to kids now he said parents really have no idea. How old. Integrated their kids have become. He said when there are issues he said at his school he's already got in this is the little school over and you know indeed does the other side of Vancouver. He said Garrity have two or three kids that are out there have come out of the closet and any goes. No one cares right he's like it's not a big deal at all and serve like I've talked to my son about and I and he goes can you American easy a little more than I have two were roughly the same age and I said I know I could not fathom when I was in high school so coming out. As that kid is if there was a guy you get beat up and if it was a girl she would just be it would she would be mercilessly taunted. And he said mine too and he goes now it's not a big deal. Like every one every I talk to my kids about it every kid knows someone Netscape. You know every move the mark schooled the my kids go to new. Is there's every sort of ethnic person you could want in there I mean it's just it's it's a soup pot I mean it's not good deeds is. The idea racism we're not dating some and it doesn't look like he was a foreign concept to my children. My kids know transgender it's just. You transgender person it's. I just a big. In June 20 or thirty years that it's going to be the issue that it is now in May be or take a little longer than that this magic next generation that's coming behind us. Doesn't have a lot of hang ups. Dead there we have. This is I've been saying for years yeah we're Guinean everybody writ son Noah o'neals I think they're wonderful. I really do I think they're wonderful now they have. Things that are. You know that drive us crazy of course because they're not like us but if you. They step back and look at the direction they're headed it's getting better it's it's way better than margin than where we came from this is my point they're smarter every yet the more you did then we tolerate they have more tolerate they're it's they're faster they're just they'd they'd as they get a message to an end that comes with flaws but don't we have lost we all have so that's my oil and anyway sir is based in a single pick a time that you would rather live and and you romanticize that time but if you went back to win every time the whole make America great thing agreed to make America great. If you went back to the sixties or seventies. You know and year like all this is Vietnam what's not. It did may it may be if you're a white dude maybe then you going back to the fifties is Ghraib for the rest of the people not so much act out your welcome. While ago hi all cheer up in an episode for. And let's get serious okay Anderson this or didn't really go to Tony on the air. And he gets or ensure Burt. The concrete circle in the mouth people hate that are now Barney is the time you shouldn't do that group. It's our professional I felt like celebrating in our tolerance off there with the orange cream school jelly belly look the world's going to be fine. Now the next question is what the hell's going on sports and it hurt hot sport suck well we got the blazers when he yes. I'd last the last second dagger does a great game not the way David I think that Dallas in the Portland. The fund's series could play a lot and it will be fun yeah unfortunately that they're gonna be like this seven and eight seed so. And oh wait I don't I don't think seven when he heard out of the may not make the playoffs period coincidental the day after you guys are talking about not taking a long three for the game winner yes same. Is that he's right what does he do three straight times he now drives and then drive it in and narrow angle of that battle that Larry one point one arm baby hoax floater thing I don't know of that's necessary in the shot everyone's all big cited about but on the US led. I don't. Charles floater he loves that shocked me was speaking great he split that double up like a bowels. Look like. While it was that saw out of I was a junior around Black Sea let's let's get into invited among a whole segment so manual start paring most of the blazers sort of blazers I've got a lot of good stuff today. And it's GC nuggets were you did you see low mellow balls I did see the mellow ball's. Not you was that. His name is a lot of balls hear his name is limo Elmo yeah. He's a he's the breath on ovals brother yeah Andy he had what I would assumed. Is a career night now we know. Maybe there is a better performance commie but I am going to assume the best they have basketball in his life. I have audio for you because I want to introduce you I've told you about his dad before. The dad the they're bad. The balls dad what does he do I and I know had always talked about it what he's just he's come a wild man now he calls himself big Boller. OK and I remember this when he is self promoter guys DA is a beast pretty outspoken yeah and I have a couple lot audio clips so in DNA you coach. That I don't know thought he might and Amy I thought he might have been their age you coach but anyway we've got that now many knew he cheated him out of the front. We'd we'd ever in a thumping around up we have some Super Bowl follow ups including a Julie Nauman my depth. Now Apple's I'm of those Brosius knocked into the game yet they do it every year I sort of talk about the Atlanta Falcons Kazaa I guess I have Bihac the blown fools up then this is not going the way that the Atlanta Falcons. But the envisioned this and I think if you're a fan of the Atlanta Falcons. I don't know if I count on you being back in the Super Bowl the ducks lose another coach. And down. Lost in the excitement of last night's show blazers win is a very key injury. So now suddenly dare I say that's notes a lot to get to. Avalanche warnings soon avalanche were avalanche talked today or believe that I didn't know we had a hot avalanche are now. In ransom much. So let's give Donald start with the blazers have about 313 on the fan. Prime time where the ice chicken soup on obscenity though. All right folks dollar right. Here is our poll question today it's at 1080 the fan. Dot com. Which is there website and they actually just Fortis on the big get Tinny and thin dot com website hit numbers recently and seen Eddie mounted up non open and a Nawaz opinion it's well it's in your email if you like to look at it and I was good that website is a hot check back backpack. The kids are talking about it's got a blue is what an exciting time it is and I thank you. How would you advocating though the trailblazers trading at one of their star guard may be. Like to feel people out on this see where people are ominous. So you have three options here yes trade little heard. You may know him I've heard of him yes Damian Miller from Oakland California. Pro yes trades CJ. Who hit the big game winner last night for the you can't really treat CJ you'd have to wait until next year we can't tonight yeah I'm saying eventually and this is not like no write me off yet. Just you know kind of future if you wanna build out the roster and bounce it out do you advocate trading one of the guards or do you think that the TrailBlazer should. I just keep both them and build around them as best they can't and that's where you would vote no bro. Broke a notch is no broad but an angry no bro know bro who semis or grow up. I sell right now 59% say no broke and I 23%. Say yes trade CJ in 18% say yes trade Millard. This is. A discussion that is set I think quite inching and one that the franchise is probably gonna have to have at some point at some point. But. I just wanna see where people are on this after CJ hits a game winner you know he's kind of been the go two guy eight in these last few spots cookies have an overall these have. And a better year than than Damian Miller is and can I do think that there has started some debate we talked with quick about this that. I think there's some debate maybe not at this instead but that eventually CJ McCollum will be the better player than Damian Miller. Well that said. Yes I mean he's have a better year than Damian Miller is this year but I would ask the question. If it's a bad year in a down year which it seems to be up to use the it is up. Does that matter I mean. CJ having a better year than dame big deal if you're not very good trio now is CJ comes and and surpasses lowered in the minds of many in the end in takes the team. I had to the next level or whatever I think that's a little different day and looking at this it's like they're just bad this year Damien. Loads have been a weird here I'd I don't know what it is is numbers are actually good doughboy scorer there's no question but that is just if you watch them. I don't know what it is about him he just doesn't. There is just something about his season he's never really looked. The same he just looked the same this year it's weird him CJ struggle that gay and now he's just kind of I mean he is a load for defenses it. He's a little more shifty than Damian so therefore I begin to even already probably a better score than being really he's got a little more. Even though he's got a little more tricks it has up with a bag or heat as an average as many points. But. In terms of just. Creating his own shot. CJ McCollum. Looks like has surpassed Damian Miller. Looking here so's. Dame's average in what 26 CJ 23 and a half. Dame student 44%. From the field CJ is a mushy and 49. As a more efficient is more efficient has a much better midrange gains fewer threes better midrange and he takes about the same number of total shots averages Tony EL would you say twenty now 23 and a half alerted Tony Jamie shooting 42 you heard David shooting 3435%. From behind the arc mean CJ she did about 42% that they're pretty close GA and its its but it is it's a more efficient. For CJ neither one of them is a defensive. In all they're they're both defensive liabilities. Yes so I mean knowing that. And Dave this is that almost twice as many assists though and is a better rebounder this fugitive of the when you are on your users are real. I'm so jealous. Anyway if neither king guard. Did you say CJ is already better putter now to me I don't think so I think. And the best way to put I think adding dame has proven more in this league and CJ has. I can see where that debate is is coming in. But I I think that Damian Miller right now is still the overall more explosive player but CJ is Calvin and I do think that if you are talking long term build around one. I can definitely see where this. This conversation comes up us think Willard. And this maybe not fair to CJ because he's just kind of committed his own but I think Dame's leadership. You know the way not this city this year but in the past with the team has rallied around him. I think there's something to that I think the locker room presence of Damien Willard I think also has to come and play for talking around building around one among but this man Debian. A curry Ellis thing down a Golden State where you just you're gonna have to make a decision. But. To me when you talk about trading on it's it's more of could you give any leak front court player if you could tell me that he if you can get a top. 45. Guide his position. In the front court where that's power forward whether that's a senator. To god to guide ideal either one about as Dorothy which which one do you want to think Willard. Would command more slowly and this is more established this for a more established and again you can't treat seizure at his collar contract until next year but. You know if you tell me do you could give me an elite front court player to pair with either one of them. I'm always believe that I would rather have that then just to. Did two guards did this the same even by quitting when you look at what Goldstein has now. Step curry Klay Thompson says complementary players because they're very different players you can hide staff curried you have a very good defender in Klay Thompson. Make him playoff owner another worry is Damon CJ do appear to be. And her kind of the same player. Would would you say that CJ stock though is probably higher right now than Dillard's has obviously he's been more seeded in more efficient. Miller you could say is. Kind of plateauing or what Alan people get excited about the word outside stock to hit Stockton who around the around the league yeah exactly well I think we'll concede Jamie C year that he's having marijuana while that's a lot of I think. Two things one you need to realize is the wrestle league doesn't pay too much attention to Portland did they win their six or seven games they're wherever they are under 500 and I think CJ right now. Is still sort of carving out his reputation around leaked Damien Willard. They're aware of yes he is he's put some daggers and some people enough that the league knows about him and I think he has a much higher profile. And it it is much more respected. We are watching the blazers closely obviously because we live here. And if you watched him closely you'll see that CJ McCollum is every bit as good if not better offensively. As Dana that's not all encompassing player like you talk about leadership. The guy he just won around Millard is just kind of a guy that guys gravitate towards I think blue jays a little bit more aloof he's a little bit smarter he's a little bit more about. You know may be can come across is I'm smarter than new type of guy is that what you want in it if you Gannett. If you get a stickier. I mean you eat you get to build your franchise around that one guy. I don't know but. Look the bottom line is the team's not every kid. You have a bunch of contracts now that. You know how how are you how are you going to get that front court Claire. Short of being in the lottery which I think is where they wanna be or should wanna be no you know they're not gonna tank the season ending how are you gonna get that front court guy. Without trading one of those guys announced talking to a writer here. The other day just on the phone weird to shoot the breeze and we both agree I think eventually eventually it's not now but eventually. Think they're gonna to trade one of those guys. For a couple of reasons one defensively they're just not gonna go where you want them to go he can't highly photos you just can't and I think you really need. It in other I would pick Willard right now I lowered states though are states I think CJ has tremendous. But I think that that's a guy that you can get a lot for around the league. And I would build around Millard and I would find it to guard. That can't hide him defensively do you find more and really compliment you find more of a lanky tall defensive minded to guard. And then you find if you could you can get and I think you can find those guys. Yeah as is dead Tony Tony Allen type committee you can find that and then if you use CJ to bring in any lead front court player and and I know that this is the huge debate that. It eat you look at a guy you know the DeMarcus Cousins why is always the one that comes up. And I and I and I get the baggage of maybe Miller wanted to take that on but someone like that find someone that isn't even beach front court player. And to meet that lineup with. And a Tony Allen liked to guard. This I can give you much offensively but you may not medium. That to me is a better line up. Then what you're running out there with with dame and with with seed so it sounds like maybe eventually we agree that they they might have to new one of these guys I don't know a lot of people are texting and I'll get some text here. From you that they're like now these this is the onto the pleasure half. Why would you say went well you would trade one to bounce off the roster bring in a no other player of similar quality become a trend it's a big New Orleans no well not ul. Debate about any leads all star level exciting by the way both the your guards are all star players. Didn't make it this year but having both of those are all star caliber players played about that sort of player into the front court. And by the way it's gotta get even harder now because now would know Evan Turner. You can't hide either one of these guys OK but if you have two all star guards. Why are you 23 in thirty because I think it's the same player. And I think it's an identity advocating an unbalanced run moving on from one of those I would have zero problem with that as long as you're getting something of equal value in return course different. Of course but the problem is is you know I don't know how you rebalance the roster if he DC those are my two guys and and were built around them their two best players were gonna do this. Renault were gonna prop them up. I think we can build you know all share whomever saying I think we can build around these two guys still how do you do it what is your path I mean make you just trading. The Allen Crabbe contract in the Meyers Leonard contract for something great no. What are you gonna know what I think we got out trading one of those guys how do you get there that's the cause the only way to do it without trading neither one is by hitting a Drummond in the in the draft. Would like Andre Drummond went eleventh something like that the year that CJ winner may be was ninth and and miers under was eleven that's the only way to. Unless you're willing to trade day more CJ the only way to make that big improvement is by landing that. Difference maker in the front court in the draft a cannery to Texan good ones coming in text 55305. Into the poll question. Antennae to defend dot com would you abdicate Jolie's issue rating one of their star guards. 1080 defend dot com and then we'll toppled about last night's game two because. Of their worst. I think a red. Six lead changes in the last 39 seconds we'll Dirk hit 23 reasons CJ answered him and then I the key is you mentioned we get get to talk about it much but there's a significant injury they came out of that and and that's gonna be a big thing going forward. It is all right to his level it's all that coming up next here is Joseph sports and Rogel. This flat billed Astros hat zealot that is. Tablets are. Let's all black how we supposed to know black with a star on it. And here's shows sports and. We're pricing since. They blazers won last night exciting game it's a great game CJ McCollum and I hits the game winner. Six lead changes in the final 38 seconds Kidd Dirk with two huge threes in just kind of thought maybe it was going to be great forums back but CJ had an answer for each and every time unbelievable is it weird. That the blazers now sit at 23 and 39. And the mavericks are now twenty and 32. And they're all jockeying for playoff position. Is that weird it is weird mean those teams that game was actually pretty fun yeah it was and those teams offensively EO Dirk still do it still being Derek Anderson Barnes who might. I can't figure him out but he looked at. It looked like. Decent basketball rank last night but then you look at the records and you realize their cup there are a combined 43 and 62 and yet there's still in playoff contention in the hunt. Where is well is that a couple of years ago. Willis is like four he was I think Oklahoma City at 48 wins. 49 my that and they didn't make the playoffs yeah that's right where is now you look at the west and you know I hear the the eighth seed is 23 in 28 right now rain and and you know what reason I put the east by the way. Like that you know Milwaukee would get in. Like seven games below 500 new and you would mark the east wallets Connell run got to come to the west now the east is still that way they have the same thing yes the pistons are currently the 82428. And then you've got Charlotte Milwaukee Miami in new York and all those guys the same blazer same where they record but it. Yum. It's just how much is. Too weird but down. The blazers lost Evan Turner. And he's not gonna be out for at least. Five weeks you're looking at probably about seventeen games that you will be without the services of Evan Turner who I think. Despite getting off to a rocky start I think Evan Turner has been a really nice addition the team especially when they started playing better a lot of that was when they insert him into the lineup and was able to hide. One of the you know what are your 2 guards and am not sure why editors offensive game has come around quite a bit. I'm they're not sure why they didn't do that sooner down but. Whatever day it it did seem to help them although they mean. It's not like they've been now it's like rattling off win after win after win they had won what 45 and the thing about Evan Turner is you know you gave him. With a even seven year semifinal 75 million. He was seventy in the Kravis and any time but anyway. Yeah was it what was it four years seven DEF four years and you know it was going to take time to fit in men but. A lot of people think that you know he's kind of policy bust that allowed people are down on him because he was number two pick in the draft draft and so they they view and through that prism. The second they signed him you knew he was going to be their third best player right because he is their. Because he's he's just skilled. Way more than the other guys not named Damian Miller team called right yes so. He has over it's it's critical while the thirty to 48. But he has slim clearly there he is their third best player and they needed that they needed somebody else to. One he's good defender he's a he's a big body again big did call link is there any scoring is India and he can run the offense there's there's a lot of times when they're coming down where. You knew you see the ball in his hands in the end he can create he's another guy they can. They can play with the ball in his hands and allows you Helio got him for the bomb Florence gore yeah and and I think. CJ is is sometimes better off plane off the ball being more of the two guard Vinny is a point guard. And I think every turner has been a nice addition and that being beat him take some of that off of him. So he's gonna be out and now what does that mean hard to know. Who knows that means. I don't think the blazers really long run anyway but march is a little easier schedule wise so. Maybe making grab the AT but I still think the lotteries where where they need to be and you know you try to win games and you know you franchises are wired that way and you wanna go wanna run just like last year my god our fans really routine. For win after win after win or we were aware you were some of you look at that game a cycle and you want. If the shot doesn't going by CJ Gunther whenever we will clam up that lottery Indy on the lot the thing about the lottery is on this year. There are a ton of point guard is a ton of smaller guards are in first like seven picks well it's a point guard driven lead out and the blazes already have their point guards you wanna talk about leverage having one of those picks warm where a team that desperately needs a point guard. Is set calling you saying hey Matt I wanna get up into that. Whatever it is an up and out east at seven of the top six or seven her all girl point Garza EU EU you have then you have a pick who could garnered them that point guard or. You have to pretty damn good point guards he could talk trade with tear right now so the blazers being in the top of this lottery I think would be. I mean that would BA ticket. To a path out of this. Without having to maybe may be move either of those two guards like we were talking about but other than that if they don't you know if they go in and get the eight seeding get. Beat by Golden State the first round what does that get them. You know that yeah which you and a worse position to try to dig out of and I don't all of this is making the class anymore satisfies anybody got after what not and last year not and there's just they're not gonna Beagle safe now for San Antonio you always say never say never but they're not gonna do it. They're not they're not good enough so collected. MBA NBA draft there by the way in their mock you have to get to ten before you find a a big guy. Find someone that's over what 67. Added that doesn't mean that you can't know I'm just I'm just saying like if if you do end up somewhere. You know I let let's say you end up in that 9101112. Range. You still may be able to get one of the better big guys write his strap right because it's old guard heavy. If he goes on a run of of point guards and shooting guards you be able to pluck someone. That may be not. Maybe wouldn't be there in in other you know as a good point to the question is you know easier if you go on Iran. Well this is what also is get that EE got to give him nest Neil say is a good. They value their talent yeah that that issue now. The question becomes if your fifteenth. You just said 91011 while they may not be there they're out if they go winning get the eight seed you're looking at what fifteen of them like that. Who's there see now you're getting into. Or though if you do end up with that because you have the other pig can you do something new and move up in the draft to get up into that top you better you better try any part you know I thought I know adults trying to Paul Allen loves the draft you know that's the route they're gonna try to take it just. You know what pieces are they gonna dangle. This I Chad Ford did a mock draft yesterday and he had the blazers at fifteen draft draft Dina TJ leaf. You know he has I don't know that name does not rebel always at least get them from UCLA he's a big guy he's a big white guy he's 610. He can score he can shoot. But he doesn't really defend him is tactically. Known on this they're not sure it should not so. You know we'll see we'll see how they do but one that maybe this thing too is if you are drafting they're they're may not be. They're Nat may or may not be some of the draft in moves the needle for you. Oh there's somebody in there it's just a matter of can you. To get a pairing get it is you know the the blazes are always. Always aggressive on draft day and the reason they're aggressive on draft day is because Paul Allen of the draft loves address so we'll see that they can do there but Evan Turner's gonna be out five weeks on time you know the more losses pile up here this is not soccer that is not the worst rows waiting for Lilly to go down an ankle injury as well this is not you miss about 1516 games do but back to our a question about littler McCollum allied read some Tex coming up next from people who are. Who were talking about this and texting in because there's some inching thoughts on whether or not the blazes will eventually have to trade one of those guys. If they do which won 344 on the fan. Prime time revise chicken soup got 1080 the fan I hear some text from these guys so much texts. We were asking the question would you advocate treating one of the blazers star guard sees him calmer Damien load which one. Neither we think. And this guy says CJ has a ways to go in terms of passing creating for others in teams don't trade. Delete front court players. It was stated. Know that very often the one that you might be able to see again we brought it up a thousand times and they keep denying it but if you give up an all star level player. Could a DeMarcus Cousins be something that would be feasible that's the one name that keeps getting brought up don't know for its realistic. But I said in a thousand times I would be interested. In and bring you near me for either one of the guards the guy CJ seems more elusive and smooth game seems more quick athletic and explosive tip for archetypes. But virtually the same time. You know I mean there's. I think that's IC a a pretty good analysis there are some differences to their game but they're both offensive minded and undersized. Guards. Where if defensive liabilities but I do you think that did dame is a better natural point guard in TJ is. This is so CJ is great stats. They always consider lured more of the man not just his marketability he's much better as the captain of the blaze is much more leadership skills. I was lower classes pass. And rebound game. I would not have a problem at all the blazers decided to deal one woman believed to be very hard to do because Willard is already established as the face of the franchise. He's popular. CJ we all know is Neil Shays diamond in the rough Neal takes great pride in fining him that. True yes so like you said we've heard many from many people that there's not a player in the blazers roster that Neil OC likes more. And seasonally at this he found in the economy makes him look at that's how he operates well look at look it's always CJ was an instant success you know he had the injury that he had to sit out than ever nevermind miners honored that you heard but that if you remember you know see each had a hard time. Giving kids is the Mets. The the first year that he played here in there was talk that he was a bust. Many at the plate or break out performance in the playoffs and was able to build upon that discusses so like I said I have no prom doing one of them. But just think it's in nearer to the hard to do. Can no 19 Shia I have now. This is an overreaction we need a dominant three in a big regardless if it's a four fiber too big piece is a way to super front office has the balls. To get us so we need within the next year to but the problem with that is again in this is suddenly goes back with phantom. The San sort of argument you hear it like Beckham they were some old was gonna get like Ken Griffey junior Barry Bonds. And it's you know like Vladimir Guerrero all of the same hour fielding your gonna give up play to draft picks and Jamie Moyer but I I think we can do it. Think yes you need an upgraded to three and yes she needed an upgrade in the front court mother I think given turner spine at the three. I don't think you need a massive upgrade their you do need upgrading an affront but. It's not that the GM needs balls and ordered to do it at the. You need players. This isn't this isn't NBA two K seven where you're going your PlayStation and you can force the trade through early season need asset yeah SA TD need things to deal. Teams of the so they will deal deal either guys you want and the problem is you don't have them while they don't have many they do have two guards yes this is why we're having this whole conversation is they have two guards who were very good that the league. But teams are illegal want. But the blazers have hamstrung themselves. With all these contracts they handed out I mean is just not like it was last year and you know wholesale will tell you would herb whomever will tell you what they had to spend that money. And yes they dinner it was gonna go away but they did not. Law and again peel back Powell. Far out you line though you you put this together this let you know right you may be felt too much in love with what happened last season. Guy coming in now avenues euphoria of the whole thing in their 22 and thirty yeah. And he had the second guys Carol Lee said that the the dynamic has shifted greatly. To. Patty we got us. Right how do you make this better stuff zero point into that Texas you have to have assets. To you. Trade and their only two real assets here. Our. Damon TJ. And this is an inch is important in good attacks are just brought up he says the big problem is the Seve for seventy farms and leak is set at point guard. There's an element to that there are to Tony 5% that is it that is it that but that storyline go because they because. But you are desperate for point guard they are a bit in in a draft that's full of point guards. Would it does any of those teams have something that that is worth giving up an all star level player to get back in return well isn't this what you pay. Europe front office for him to find the source making it happen you got you got them into this mess. Get them out or improve on. Mean that's why you paid them there and if it doesn't happen and guess what's gonna happen Jason Parker of this this regime will be done and no one will come in and have to clean up the mess is is this is how old Pala has operated for years but this is also by the way the plight of 75% of the NBA this same conversation that we're having right now. Is probably being had on sports radio's Joe's in half of the NBA markets it's not easy to do you know sitting there thinking that last while watching them play Dallas don't cannot. Dallas has been kind of wallowing in this idea that couple years in this idea that they still have Dirk and game winning king Paul what are they doing he's been thrown money. The Harrison Barnes is in the Leslie Matthews and really tried pretty Andre Jordan they'd be more relevant if they had him but all in in Phoenix Phoenix thought they had something Coke and a couple years it is hard there's no question Phoenix hasn't done squat and by the way. New Orleans has one of the four best players for five best players in the NBA in Anthony Davis and everyone in member they made a class two years ago. And it is like all the sky's the limit and then they fired Marty Williams and wears New Orleans. New Orleans is twenty and 32 Minnesota was supposed to be really good this year. And as it does seem mean Lee nice young collection of talent in Minnesota is the whale it is hard Jason but that doesn't. Excuse no you can't sit up on a podium and say well sorry guys it's hard. And Contras I think the Allen Crabbe contract comic got blown Meyers Leonard. Yet that little smaller though so you know. That there's another segment that we can do you down the road is he. I mean do you expect anything out of him moving forward anymore or a loss and he's done is done. I dizzy a potential you know we can that's that's a conversation another time but I don't expect a whole lot now. Because they paid him with the idea that hey William will keep mother manageable deal here but we still think he can develop and zoning law he's not now. There's another one. The cells if this is on Lee and this is this fifth year and a blazer Jersey Meyers Leonard yeah I mean I distinct he has what he has bending the reality is that when you look at whistling blazer fan wants this to occur in the next year or so and the truth is like I guess said. Seve tribes and the league. You are years away from turning this thing around. We kind of hat while a bit but holy no not really date they had a couple of years ago where they had to. Not only these two guards but they also had the most cap space of any team in Moline and this is where and this is the product that they've given me and it's probably gonna take awhile to figure out they had a better. Half both the war before they just chose to spend the money is again they had to spend a big cast basically they chose to handed out all of this is what they handed it out to. Allen grabbed now has the exact same stats he had last year. And is just is inconsistent as last year. Why did you pay him 75 million dollars. Because you couldn't give it to anyone else because you can get Chandler Parsons thank mom this is miss these are miscalculations. You have the opportunity to put this roster together with. All kinds of guys over several years and this is what they put out in May need to be held accountable for I know that this is. These types of things are why I got fired toggle ball but at least I still have a radio show. Or I can tell you the truth out in you guys need to hold them accountable now let's not duck is not over yet. It's just there's draft coming up. We'll see where an aching you know what what kind of picks they can quarrel see what kind of maneuvering they can do but they're maneuvering is gonna be much more difficult now. That that was the and it was a year ago or two years ago or even two years ago when you had the you know Lopez and Wes Matthews and all that you've had a couple big god seasons of making decisions and they've all led to this and this is in good. Which is why every you know regardless of whether or not you make a class this year. Look what we know that either your lottery team or your one and done right we all know that there's there's not as a deep run guiding us right. And so I think next year honestly I think next offseason there may be people that are competing for their jobs. I think next season next offseason is going to be the biggest of their they're regime. Because I think end of the year like this and I do think it may be some people get shown the door are a good text by 5305 let's move on coming up next. Let's talk about low mellow ball a one in dirty she to their data love mellow big Boller as to enjoy that his name is low mellow you know of the statute DM fan.