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Pay its break here really appreciate you listening about to get some podcast excellence is presented by less Schwab tires doing the right thing since 1952. Brad and I and mom will like that Maryland doesn't. This is durden spray your big bad cop but Dario what to do and cars yeah that well known Jack thank you know. Do not object walked back out and injured Johnson and Brendan sprayed my excitement about things. I can lead to protect the good doctor now. Durden spray gun and if you wanna look for the future with got to start on the best days group was nothing more than a tough old man with a little girl like this shouldn't he is all right one dollar to hear on the radio program under this. Reagan we've got a lot to get to hear and our number two John does Jennings who joins at 130. What I about the Oregon Ducks there was an article written by Andrew gripe. And highlighting how mark Calvert sucked so much last year which. I'm excited to talk about. All I ask them hot takes on how do yet I do hot takes a clinic okay all right we'll talk about that end Walt we'll kind of do a hodgepodge here 115. A NFL coaching news because there's one guy that's making me question everything about my own life is what you've accomplished in this fully and also I let some big news in college football that I never thought I'd see but I'm glad that I did a cut and so that's 93 I don't know what he took me adjusted so we'll talk about that 115 but I wanted to talk about the chargers who are moving from some. You the other Lou. To Los Angeles the second LA team is not going to be the raiders. It is going to be the chargers. Dean Spanos announced today in a letter. He said after much deliberation I've made the decision to relocate the chargers to Los Angeles beginning with the 2017 NFL's season. San Diego as barrel for 356 years it will always be a part of our identity and my family and I have nothing but gratitude and appreciation for the sport and passion. Our fans have shared with us over the years. But today we turn the page and we be an exciting new era as the Los Angeles chargers. LA is a remarkable place in a while we played our first season they're 1963. And met fans there ever since our entire organization knows that we have a tremendous amount of work to do we must earn the respect in sport of LA football fans. Who must get back to winning. And we must make a meaningful contribution. Not just on the field but off the field as a leader and champion. For the community came what do what do Crockett asses how is where to begin with his conversation I've I really think this is a bad day for the NFL did this is a going to be a move that will be laughed out for years to come. From many different reasons and on it it point blank starts with the fact LA doesn't wanna. LA does not want to San Diego Chargers and the league columnist down their for the LA times don't last he wrote an article. Basically entitled yet we don't want you and I think when you look at the direction of the LA sports landscape what fiddle or they gonna be in that town and that's a great dodger town it's a good baseball town. We know how much support the lakers haven't we can make fun of their fans to be in front runners they still out sell out the Staples Center or even on nineteen sucked for along time now. The clippers are good and relevant maybe get to the Western Conference finals this year the king sellout every single game. USC is back to looking like the program that there are supposed to be in the old sellout a lot of games if they continue to play that way. All you need to know about that town is this as a fan base. Is what happened of the rams this year I mean there was so much so much excitement about the rams going back to LA they have won 45 win season. Go look at pictures and that's stadium in week seventeen it was nobody goes knowing I was like ten people in the stands at five minutes before kick off before their last game. We've people are gonna go to chargers games that's not a charger town the raiders would have had success there. Because that Stiller raiders town so for spam us to make this move I know that charger fan base is a great to San Diego that's kind of known as a as a road crowd place. Mainly because it's a transient city were so many people moved to San Diego because of the weather. But but to go move to LA where you're going to be forgotten. In leave the city where you've been for 56 years. It's a joke I feel bad for diehard charger fans and it's a bad day for the NFL so. Oh the new stadium in LA this huge. Beautiful facility they're gonna build it still two years out. And so people wondering where they get a play because the rams already in the LA memorial coliseum which seats 90000. The charges are not gonna play there and get this excitement right there's a lot of excitement and buzz in LA for our team. They're gonna play any 30000. Seat stub hub senator which is the home of the ML SLA galaxy and maybe they got a chance to fill that. Could be allowed to their benefit if you can't get 30000 people to go to an NFL game they're playing ads this idiotic and. Analysts stadium yeah. What do you do and what are you doing drugs they're waiting for the new big thing but I just this kind of stuff just an announcer but he does and in the NFL came out Goodell came out with a with a statement today saying we tried efforts effortlessly to find an agreement and in region. Deal with the folks of San Diego and we had a ballot measure in November that was voted down and we kept trying and trying. But plus he brings up a really good point in his article where. Basically the relocation fee is 650 million dollars that it is Israel Santos is willing to spend 650. Million dollars to move two hours to move two hours north from San Diego and LA where I believe the number he was willing to spend on a new stadium in San Diego was 2535350. Thank you. He was going to spend 350. Of his own money to build a new stadium and in San Diego but he's willing to spend 650 million dollars of his own money you have to move to Los Angeles makes no sense don't give me that crock of crap. That you tried everything you could disdain Cindy well. And look the the people had multiple opportunities in San Diego because they were voting on stadium and how the taxing was going to be worked out to help San Diego in the NFL get new stadium in San Diego. And find out the people voted down the Sydney you know what we're not gonna do this in good for the people not do now I have read things that spent us family when you compare them in terms of NFL ownership groups. They are kind of considered NFL war. Lab that only want their of their valuation of their family in their worth is one point two billion only one point two so yes in some circles in the NFL that is considered a NFL cash poor. Yes but that's just be hypocritical nature to me is what you just said. He is willing to spend 650 yeah. To just move that 300 million more that by the way is just a relocation fee that's not cost in renting out the stuff but senator that's not costing anything else that's just to move. From CN EO to LA he's willing to spend 650. But to stay NCA Diego. And reward the diehard fans that do exist and having football stadium in a beautiful city. He was only willing to spend 350 and so this is sustained other ongoing point of the NFL being hypocrites being the bid ownership some of the ownership groups. Some of them are the biggest hypocrites. And I just like this tonight I kind of just get a chuckle of you were so but hurt by people voting down. This tax to do it you this stadium. That you're gonna spend. Almost double what she actually yeah about double yeah a what you were willing to spend originally just to move. To another city to do other points on this the NFL went above and beyond from their standpoint in trying to make this work in San Diego because they were willing to give 300 million dollars to build a one point two million dollar stadium billion happened over the reason it wasn't gonna work was because its panels was anointed to up his value we wanted suds so much out attacks in from the cities San Diego. And in this in the folks in that Tom just said no we're not gonna give you that amount of money but the NFL has never offered 300 million dollars to help with the new stadium that was unprecedented. For them to do and the other part that is just makes me scratch my head with this is yes somebody Texan and that the value of the franchise will go up sure. Los Angeles maybe is a sexier name in San Diego. The values for sure going to go up he's gonna make more money sure but let's also not they're not gonna get revenue out of the stadium. They're gonna eventually play in stand Rockies building stamp rocky is spending two point six billion dollars would no public money. To build that stadium and Inglewood and they're going to be they're they're gonna play and that stadium but they're not gonna generate revenue from it or not gonna have the wrong place to play. To make money for the organization so that's one of those it makes me scratch my head as well we're sure yet that the revenues gonna go up are urging the value. But the organization is gonna go up but you're playing in somebody else's house that stand croc he's building. And he's not gonna split the revenue with ya which continues to make me wonder. Why you would not loan to do more to stay in San Diego and the reason why they're hypocrites is because he never wanted to stay in San Diego he always wanted to move. And if he was willing to really do everything it took to stay there he would have found a way to come to an agreement with the folks in that community. And I look I know it sucks it in and people in Seattle have gone through this with their team the Sonics leave in like. I never won a wish this on a fan base to look brand as it went through and in St. Louis Rams just went through and Saint Louis and it sucks to lose a team I understand that. But I also respect the folks of San Diego flip in the middle finger to span else in saying now. No we're no you're you're a millionaire were not gonna spend 600 million whatever the tax price was to build you a brand new stadium bitten by a pony up your own money. So he's weird thing to me with the NFL and teams in general when they do this 'cause it's not just the spin a Stanley like flipped in the middle finger okay I get it. Much also flipped the NFL off. That's that's an organization that just brought in what thirteen fourteen billion dollars. I hate this I need this in the situation when teams are put in two holding cities hostage. Hey you better give us an estate Oakland's doing it they're probably gonna go to Vegas now by the way to sort of thing that basically says Robert Kraft and Jerry Jones of completely packed. Not Al Davis. Mark Mark Davis in his move to potentially move to Vegas and that's probably gonna have because it is going good right now in Oakland. The chargers are moving from San Diego yet the ram through from Saint Louis but I'm okay with LA having a sports franchise I just also hate watching this happen in sports. Where these leagues make billions upon billions. And he's ownership groups cashing in and make billions upon billions Nate yeah. And then it's the city's fault if there's stadium so they turn around and hold the city hostages it's not it's not just the NFL the NFL is guilty because they make the most. But Major League based on their credit doesn't move any teams the NBA's done this too and I I just I absolutely hate it EI and and that's where I respect folks are saying no we're not gonna pay for I held little more cities will follow and in other maybe it's it's a bias against the city of Los Angeles I just don't think it's a great sports town that there's too much going on as is. And you could dominated the rams are good attendance has because they sold out. A stadium it's much larger than most NFL stadiums in the coliseum. The first couple weeks of the season go back and look at pictures towards the end of the year and and that really will become a race I already think it's a bigger rams down. Because of the history the rams had their the charges played one season in LA gimme a break they have a history there a charger fans of Los Angeles that's a joke. It's gonna be erased it to see who has the first winning season Weathers the rams and the chargers and whoever does it we'll get more fans and and generate a bigger body speaking on the rams they're going the way of the millennial books when what that means and also moving college football that I never thought I'd seeing. But was probably the right decision that's next turn sprayed on the fan. Yeah. Yeah. This is third in. I'm tag. Don't I I never told finally Ron's story. Yeah you had a LeBron Brennan yesterday it's really play it's not like the craziest thing ever let you near us here. So there's been preakness by the way hollow bragged dude I just I mean LeBron we go the way back. You guys are only see Anderson's aside train wreck we just and that connection I never such an act not bad and now he's at it did a decent job I heard. Yeah he's yeah he's okay and it is and that many CNET. I cannot and do you get the movie was fine again an idea that the bill not the worst movie I've seen some funny moments iciness stole the show I'll hurt though I've heard worse reviews and that also drags on a little too long have. Rocking yeah like Amy Schumer does now. Anyways. Basically would have been the blazers won so when I can do some times I I just go back to near the locker room with a visitors go to secede any F bombs dropped yeah Arab. Yes you the body Ian is a reaction the body language. Inside put on I was gonna snap Chad. And Tyreke Kevin Love and LeBron was like right behind them I just started filming in insane inning as filming there Walken literally right past me probably three feet from the in the Bronx had this weird like because I bet this happens to all the time he sat kind of one of those side I'd moments where he was watching which you can kind of tell you notice that I was filming. And so he didn't look at me directly but I could tell that he knew I was there when I was doing so he walks past didn't say an inning and using aim now than back to me. This guy comes running up to me. Any. And as I just held my credential Leo I'm media this is my job and I do is every game. And he immediately stop to realize he goes well. Oh hopes and I'm just. I'm sorry okay I'm sorry and many just like blocks away and I go to dude I bet you LeBron because of who he is that happens every single game I did see. INS is a tad ridiculous I understand these side glance that ship battle and when you get annoyed like every like he's like dude I'm just walking from the courts locker room but I'm mad I'm not in his there's no way I had an hour on his way I know you're not doing anything wrong but I can I could see his viewpoint of vitamin attire he's got handlers other players don't have which is funny the fact that he has handled their runs out like that by the way could host an impression going out for warm ups like sometimes when teams like that come to town. They go lot warmup sorely just so they don't have to deal already you know warming up. He did yeah I that's the first time that he is warmed up I think in Portland in four or five matches I've went to the cavs game last year median amount thinking to myself I had to get your hour and half early on in all hang now seem fighting your rug children who LeBron. He and got out of all it was about twice during Miami Heat you know they never give out to warm up and it was just basically blazer fans heckling carrier ring sand hey were is LeBron had to carry out the moron hey LeBron coming in countries like China warm up. Thank goodness impression Mormon. Yes there is my probably underwhelming LeBron story but it was just funny that like he is a handler because I did a snap chat video anybody get the camera out of his face hey the rams as desired add decided to hire a millennial. They have hired Washington office of coordinator Sean McVeigh. And he is thirty years old he's thirty years or so about half this team is holes in him thirty years old. Is that a sexy hire why. Hey Los Angeles you guys didn't like just last year. Come on out this year we got to era. I just I hope he continues seven a nine BS I hope he gives as good slogans like Jeff Fisher did this is the 378. Of nine. Thirty like. Thirty years old to be an NFL coach guy that's so young I just may may be this guys the next genius but I'm gonna be all hedge my bet and say this is could've. Crash and burn the raiders said the same thing when they heard a 31 year old by the name of Lane Kiffin yeah we get the next offensive line of football from USC how'd that work out he is now by the way the youngest head coach in NFL history. Thirty years old. Mean that you literally that's like handing me an NFL team in sync a run it now I -- it's not literally the same -- right he's got a big career in the NFL yeah like at -- this -- easier thirty years old could you imagine me and I go to an NFL team right now and in my doing in my life man John McVeigh's run in the LA 18 AME is that you're doing decent for thirty years old and I can't complain of failed completely yet I have nightmares so far my kids are healthy our own house and I'm doing a radio show where Meyer can play I mean look he's easy mentioning comes in the Redskins who was there offensive coordinator and they've had a good offense -- mean having to go through blues and RG three and Kirk cousins your starter and ease out of things to deal with I did that in and they performed well on that side of the football. But I don't usually like to go ages than say somebody is certain age can't. Do a job because we've gone through that from time to time and our career oh yeah. But just edges it's just fascinated at how that's gonna work in that locker room when you have happy you know the majority of the team as you mentioned could be 30313233. And they're taken orders and it barked out by a guy that's younger than them yeah out. It is hard for me to see network and now it doesn't feel. Great right now I just can't imagine is a ranch and are you really jacked no. Because I mean. He's coming from Washington let's value and the best offense in the NFL Kirk cousins wasn't bad nobody had good numbers they put it they score points. He's 32. That's even literally at the team is gonna be older than him can you reach those guys at thirty years old I don't. What he's it is the 34 year old vet Bruce film industry another shot McVeigh is so young he still has a high school recruiting profile online no he doesn't like 24/7 sports I'll say my god he was. It came from Atlanta Georgia mayor's high school 51117. Class of 2004. He went to Miami Ohio. Use a two star recruit of course he was by the way you wanna see the tweet from the LA rams they put a picture on them. And basically half the response is ours is our new slot receiver is a joke one guy just simply that you better win games bitch. If you see out of LA some CI team desires CR transit things for giving us two guaranteed wins per year. Nobody's buying a thirty year olds come and now having success let's not act like he's got a lot to work with. Yeah let's Jerryd offices quarterback Jarrett Goff was awful this year Yassin the rams have fired Sean McVeigh thirty year old coordinator at a Washington the bills made their higher they hired Sean McDermott. And evidently they're gonna give him a ton of power and buffalo which buffalo still hasn't figured out how to create a winning culture you know I would be fascinated to do is study. Look what is worked out more in the NFL and an uninsured there's a direct correlation that hiring defense coordinators vs offensive coordinators. But the route you go when you pick a head coach which ones pan out unless ST Super Bowl winners. I'd be easing who's the guy reigning supreme in the NFL because he's in defense of guy yeah I invalid Jack. It was Pete Carroll was he defense coordinator and is starting his career he was a defense in defense of guy yeah. Yes it I would be curious to go back is that I mean it does examples of both that of war and no doubt find out all Holmgren for a long time he's an offensive guy and then you look what he did as a head coach Andy Reid Lazio offense our offensive guy Shanahan was an offensive guy up. Cited as examples of both but that that I think is then. That it's almost like if your college coach or a college program yet to decide you wanna go pro style or or or spread and now it's the same thing as an NFL team he when he in defense of money to our offense a money guy and and easing the bills made the same decision where they got a deep coordinator. After hiring a head coach that was a defense of coordinator Mike Steele fire take on. Broncos hiring Vance Joseph. No not really I trust John L oil law. Hard not to right decision yet and they said from the beginning he was the guy the report stated I did see one report I don't know if you saw this it over the the last two I someone that said Kyle Shanahan was kind of the leader but the they have instills it I don't know how value of them for the leaders. I don't think if you're John oh you wanna put cal Shanahan in a situation where his dad's. Shadows gonna be over him for the entirety of his career there. And he wanted Joseph the entire time and if you want some go for it because always and everything right by me so far the Broncos fan. Yes the Broncos also make their head coaching hire advance Joseph so still some teams out there looking for a head coach. But Sean McVeigh Sean McDermott advance Joseph all land gigs. In the NFL he'd better win bitch is such a good tweet Ali cells and as such it up by the way we've got John judging Jesse calling and right now she's set to join us ESPN pac twelve blog. I want ask this question could she trust more. For future references Willie Taggart an organ or Gary Anderson Dorgan stay or go to do something maybe we'll talk some pac twelve football with her some things look forward to in the offseason we'll talk with shots on Jennings ESPN pactel blog next but here's might quit sports update. All hardcore or. It's his third and spurred on going and maybe it's what they want to back him 130 for a Thursday. And everybody survive and Silva again. Donovan ten minutes of talk about the organ ducks' season ages sadness and you drive for an article about what happened with mark comforts inside that program. And don't drink coming accompany our make our picks for the divisional round of the NFL playoffs their change realty. And if unchallenged but excited to bring on our next guest on our favorites and talked college football with Sean tell Jennings ash onto a Jennings on Twitter. Pactel football writer for ESP and she joins us on the Gil mortgage. A mobile hot line lots of wanna talk to you about it takes the time to nation until let's start with a snowstorm how do you survive to Sonoma again. Yeah I would say at the native Minnesotan I think it's hilarious whether or not. These things happened everyone knew that my diet just. You know giant carefully. Don't plan on your break having a Pope mobile contrary. As someone who had to catch a flight out of Portland the morning we'll look to expand. A look at export thirty expecting him when people are finding it very. To no avail. In which case I dug my my car out in just a note attachment spoke to the airport now. And a love hate relationship with the now. That's some good and some bad their rights given to take well unlike most decent last segment so let's just start with a so morrow or he gets some fan base out there are fired up. The dot sire Willie Taggart lot of organ fans optimistic about what he's done so far of course we know Gary Anderson doubling would total. In year to do so could you have more confidence and moving forward Willie Taggart. Or Gary Anderson. On my gosh guys really. Well. I'm hoping that. Gary Anderson when he done in Corvallis so far instead saying and that's what can meet. I've read about it earlier this week I think they're biggest issue last year with the pack in May need to get their cornerback situation figured out. Right now or else Ryan acknowledged sort of a nonissue again next year and be very proud. They're going to be very very frustrated and really quite there has built car rental car. Can you do it and Eugene as far as what. And they have to figure out moving forward. I think south. But I'll say that. Because you know I think the duck might win the working next year however that doesn't necessarily mean that really triggered the better coach of the guys who can build a program. Better and Gary Anderson I think he had a lot of things working as scary out specifically the talent coming. You know I don't necessarily think a lack help portrait coaching the team next year. That it would be necessarily a huge different just because. You have recommend coming back Carol crowd it for a from the line started at starting quarterback coming back peace is gonna be fun out. Don't let activity and the character which coach you better or the better program builder I'm in staying in the question and say that I would truck I don't. Now I'm an ominous say hey I'm gonna fill in the blank even though you're sitting on a city you're choosing Gary Anderson day out of character I'm just an of them to fill in the blank there. Looks a heck of a season in the pac twelve Washington in the playoff USC emerging at the in Stamford in what everybody called a down year winning ten games. On what are we thinking about the pac twelve heading into next season the way everything shaped up at the end of this season. I think pac twelve north has a lot of firepower coming out on next season I think Washington obviously. And it curry situation what kicked out of returning to so many even went. Departures that they are going to have on that team and a great efficient Washington stake it bought back. Entered you know don't count David shout out quite yet I think that organ stated that you are asking figured out. They're going to be in good shape I think the episode being mentioned. However I think they've got in the north in the early going cute competed well at the talent of the US he and the app I think. Right now detergent are my front runner and exchange act of champions. Today. You know about it and him battle performance rose alternate yelled at me up as a redshirt freshman can do that. And that needs them and other costs even sort of ID starter and the guy. I don't see. And what they really stumbled back here I think they won the cup title. You were talking wish until Jennings ash on tell Jennings on Twitter pactel football writer. For ESPN and and a follow up look at Arnold point you know last year at this point we were looking at the factual and wondering. That it was kind of a unique situation when not a lot of stock car power at the quarterback position Marie have Browning coming back falcon rose and other than that made a mr. memory but it was a bunch of new faces and this you're a little different where you mentioned Arnold comes out of nowhere has a great season went when's the Rose Bowl. You got Browning coming back Rosen back falcon now sees returning for another year or so. I see this it what do you think is the best quarterback in the pac twelve and in his Sam Arnold done enough it did take the state that claim. I think empaneled are absolutely the past cornerback in the club and you look at it. Number it outlawed indicate that and also. If you'd just take the biggest comment and the biggest game. Just having a good quarterback but his best moment that not come in the biggest gain his biggest growth did not come in the biggest gain that. Even put Alabama out of that because of how Camelot and has one heck of a a cornerback. Have that in Alabama that even take that out of that and call them because I have a ten game. Don't look that great in the US game up in Seattle he don't look great you've got to sort of technical searching a posse and inspired. Being able to pulling him back after the biggest moment because back to Washington gonna need from him next year. If they are going to compete with USC for the tackle tackle. What's the biggest question you would wanna answer by the time next season starts in the pac twelve. Where does anything what's the biggest thing that sticks out for you that you're gonna kind of monitors throughout the offseason. Oh and the fact won a national title. That would probably be made at the top of my list I think we you know you look at smaller things I really am very interested. In year one day you're cute co wrote the player and so for guys that I like Alex and Arnold just in her very. Haven't even looked at in a month hasn't been there at Colorado credit actually stepped into absolute power. Played really well what do they look like Maxine and they guide you can't. Step up at Bob Morton redshirt sophomore and really do I think that their program but I think so big picture and also. While pictures a look at that. And you know sentiment when you look at did the bigger picture as you mentioned would Washington getting into the playoffs this year and you're wondering if any of those teams have a chance to win a tie reliable last. Outside of the USC and Washington may lead to look forward to next year do you think there's another team that how does. This the the talent the coaching the schedule and everything lining up for a chance to make it a playoff appearance other than USC or Washington. You know I don't hear great now. And that sure you know that's that makes me haters that are automatically and I am I injured contaminate those. No you. Can't see how you look at teams like Alabama where it seemed like they had everything going for them panic out here not seeking western great coach so much talent. That still wasn't a Clinton national at all. Many Republicans quite a crack open gonna happen next year. I would say you know. Great coach. What we have in will be a good chance to win at least they're division. That the US in Washington are not there and you know I'm returning quarterback is as the Chong lot and showed a super hopeful now that both Arnold and Browning had bet on a stage. Performed differently but ban on that stage experience but I think that's great. I think it's wonderful for the Washington can paternity up close and personal with a team that is LOB. I thought Washington he can click out of their mind I thought it played really really well. Often at Purdue needed it and say. OK so this is what and I'm really elite defense looks like you and Brad but not without my Alabama golf and let them out at about Scarborough let them. Anything they're very special but still I think being there are being at a moment seeing that up close and personal and the big tricking it especially young team moving forward. Well get out here on this what's kind of a two Carter first have you heard anything about the cal job because that one was sunny nice just got the axle now when are we hearing about who may be the favorite. In the clubhouse the way and that Digg is in the second part would be. You know you look at USC in the way they ended in clay Helton was on the hot seat some people thought oh he could be act. Axed here pretty soon and then. Turns around debt Donald comes in they win a rose ball so your feeling good if you're USC but the team up the road in west wood in UCLA. Jim Mora has to have a ton of pressure on him go on Ford for this coming season does any. Yes that's what cargoes just. No not how we're not really hearing. It. The culmination felt odd you would think that they would have among my basket they're gonna fire coached. Like less than a month before hanging day even thinkable would have happened. Quicker than outside I'm not very very issue happening there are multiple that is exactly but I'm certainly but I think he's that happened. And how UCL a should be engine I think the jet as tiger. News. Good. Josh implement the good cornerback but remember that he had an injury issues that you're in elk. Everyone has injured his right now but to inserting cornerback added that it couldn't structures and I'm not a shrinking market. Last year and so that hopefully get. The girl and a little bit of off and the momentum they certainly have that Alan. I'm confident and be on that side of the ball to compete and not about whether they have that. How cute to really be eight or assert compete for a spot in the college football player out there were another matter that I I don't think they necessarily will be in the conversation next year. And you know I mean I guess that is getting more at I have that the and the land. I'm good stuff as always John Doug Jennings as sound Doug Jennings on Twitter tackle football writer. For ESPN thinks the time we always appreciated didn't good luck landing back in Portland when you return. Are gosh I'm Doug Jennings. I you finally rework at ES. The enact our job is one that was a move wouldn't talk about Sonny dykes being fired from the didn't really understand that one and some folks try to say Chip Kelly was gonna take that job wedged no. I is not to that's a tough job for no old chipped to one night as a one talent but yeah that that was number there is rumblings last offseason that Sonny dykes in the administration didn't get along the didn't see NI and who's going to be in any signing extensions like oh wait nevermind. And then he gets fired on your way and now you. Also is rumbling so I just curious what she's heard there have been rumblings of former duck might be taking the gate open. Friend of the shows brother. Oh would you can't look I was Justin Wilcox is just being thrown out they have a year like he had as a defense coordinator you're gonna start showing us some weight I wanna test set and don't you all using a doesn't look pretty from mark health for but I asked the question. Why that's next on tending the fan. So why would you ever pay more for a gym membership at crunch time Rajiv like crunch fitness always nun and final months so why would you ever pay more yeah. For gym membership. The stock price on anybody organ doctors piece written today any or don't and by Andrew rice come on the show before. There's a good job covering organ basically taking a look back to the season that just happened. Analyzing what the world went wrong out and a program like organ turn into. Since 1991. It and I they got. I wanna start this by saying. Do organ fans. Really care to take a look at their review Mir in Knoll exactly how bad things were inside those programs Doris. I look I give YA I get why you write this story I totally understand why Iraq but I think there's also an element of aside from that part of it like his job. I think they do people are always existed like what I really am because we know that clearly he had lost some leadership guys were speaking out. There wasn't Aaron there wasn't this. All together with the same answer some memory cam on had a common to need you now Mays who they all came doesn't feel that way is like well Pete Davis justices said that you know it was a lot of that going on so we kind of got the gist of it. But this is a very detailed description and gives you we really thorough idea. Of when it started what took place. And how kind of old things started to snowball 'cause this wasn't just because they Lawson gave up seven U Washington knowledge started dating back in the off season before the season had got underway yeah I just you know I don't want and sit here just hammer helped purge continuous than any. It didn't seem to have a c'mon at this point. What's tough is you got to get all that information you do you do on and I get that and just if feels like there's positive momentum building with the new regime announce okay wait member about Alaska I was let's take a look back and I don't know it's just not a it's not a great look to have players come out and and how long I guess would be that's the only thing that exact he's I think is great ninety you almost you separate those two things where. Taggart has the momentum Roland right I idling this is any different. Then organ state where Darius came in and same thing moment I'm starting don't of people felt great. Randy chose to leave LSU. I still wanted to know of back story on that but it doesn't mean that I am any less excited of Gary Anderson organ state. I think rescinding applies here if you're an organ fanned right where Taggart did Jim pumped Indy just sites. But if somebody releases deep tell descriptions in reasons why that program. Fell so hard to go from nine wins to four. I thought that was really good stuff that people really. We love the juicy details as much as we make fun of men women anybody that watched cart bashing I know Lindsay was gone Amman since we love it we love it when it's in sports and we eat it up and I thought that that article gave you exactly what you want an idea. An understanding of how that thing sunk so fast with health. I will say in a mall get into the 1:2 I I I am. I I will say I don't know what people were expecting. More weight as you mentioned McKim hunt comments he wasn't the only one they came out and spoke how bold when your five or so weeks into his season and you have one of the leaders are your team coming out saying half the guys don't give a crap about winning or losing. They're just going through the motions. That tells me all I need to know about the direction in in the leadership inside that locker room and and it's why it was Seoul. It difficult for me to understand the folks that continued to one to support him throughout the course this season and now this comes on a base they just accept an opinion that he lost control program. And the move was the right one so enjoy arrived details exactly what went wrong in basically says it starts in the summer you know you blow the 31 point lead dead Ted TCU in the Alamo Bowl. It goes downhill from there where it in the height of the summer players to come by for work outs one anonymous players said. That guys were not completing the repetitions. He said they were giving quote half effort cutting corners. They basically said guys would leave the locker without even sweating that would barely do anything and they bounce they didn't really care about putting in the work in the off season. Continues on from there where there's other quotes. Steve gray wood had a quote this article is that I relate what happened just as there's a term broken windows if there's an abandoned factory can stand untouched for weeks maybe months years unscathed. But as soon as someone throws a rock through the first window and doesn't take long for all the windows to be broken out Bayesian eluding to all the things. Then added on top of that and you know I I think. Didn't those are telling things the other telling thing in this was done a number of anonymous players. Basically coming out and saying after the Washington game wage they all acknowledge wasn't just a loss it was a it was different than just your normal game yet because they hung seventy on yet. Many clip many players interviewed for this article wished health for a simple coaches and players on notice. Even if it went against his personality want players say quote sometimes it's better to be fear. Then love and that's something that Alfred was never able to. Well and that that's to me that's not too surprising IE kind of got that idea that he wasn't willing to go to that point and that was against who he is maybe as a person. And the other part to their you know there's an element and everybody's kind of relayed this message but. How French 101 a great guy you know one of those knows football eating along with easier conversations with. But when he got in front of a crowd jokes would bomb players even players that supported him could kind of see the writing on the wall they. He's not quite the leader bill for them but you know what this piece also indicates to me. Because there's clearly momentum writing right now for the ducks in recruiting him with Levitt's tweets in Taggart anytime he toxicity is anything. I would almost say this is a good. They're a portion of this is a good reminder. This is not going to be demean. They have the talent to win maybe eight nine games. This is also to me going to be much tap tougher task because it's not that you just have talent Carrington. Freeman Berber. It's not you just have that you needed more there's somebody actually this program has lacked in the last couple of seasons in my opinion and really lacked this year. And I'm gonna be really it's deceive tag and get that out of them because it's not just that you need talent to win. You need guys committed all Linux vocal leaders guys holding other guys accountable. There have letting you genome and so that's going to be entirely upon Willie Taggart shoulders to implement that and get that back installed in instilled skis meet. Into that program and and and bring out the character in those individuals because they lost it a whole staff did this was not just a mark Alpert staying. You know great what had a quarter net comment and other assistance. They all this kind of loss it just snowballed on him so we can beat you can be pumped for Taggart and I get an idea to. But there's also an element of we really have to see Kenny doing this because there's a bigger thing at hand. Then just having a coach come in and having that talent and suddenly you know win ball games you've got to strike into the core of these kids to get their mentality sterner. Yes we do you had to chip Reid changed the culture is is so yes they do that a B test not an easy thing for a lot of snowmobile really -- it's got to do it there is another quoting here from Doug Brown our offensive violence of the biggest thing we need to work on as being better teammates as a teammate yet to set high standards for yourself. The great teammates also hold your other teammates in the same. High standards the other thing I will highlight two end points quickly before we go wine is I do think there was a good point in year. About the kind of person mark coverage is where they highlight the Nebraska game where if you remember Nebraska punter Sam folds pastoral in a car accident. In highlights basically Matt Logan received a lot of credit for taking a bouquet of flowers out and putting among the 27 yard line because that was Fultz is number. That was all health urges idea he came up with a non his own. And and asked Morgan to do that for the game so it just highlights the kind of guy that the mark coverage despite all of our opinions about what kind of head coach he was yeah highlights the kind of person he was this. And Arabs are era tidbit I I I don't know how you don't read that piece because it is so descriptive from kind of the start to the end of it I don't know how you don't read that. And then change everything you thought if you're pro health rich and here we have the the F interest may be a good person to talk to on this. But like if you were a pro health rich. I don't know how you don't read that walkway go okay they had to do that yeah it was absolutely the right move and accept everything I argued all year one other point that was a negative for Eldridge was recruiting which is a big deal for a lot of ducks fans. There she doesn't sixteen signing class was the first since 2009 to be ranked outside the top 25. And it was a source a player and a blue chip recruit. Who played in the national title game on Monday we talked Angie gripe about organ. He told. He'd basically set and a podcast that staffers weren't savvy in their use of social media. Which cousin to lose out a lot of recruits and I think that's just highlights further. Look TTE was and is somewhat of a short deck because there were NCAA sanctions when he took over the number of visits you could take that kind of stuff. I was at USC type sanctions but there were small things that that did hinder his ability. Other recording was another big part of it and so we just kind of looks into. Exactly what went wrong to be thought it was just one thing you're wrong basically start with a 31 point loss added to TCU in the Alamo Bowl. And snowballed from Aristide Greenwood said with a quote. A broken windows crashed I brought to buy crunch fitness always none any final months so why would you ever pay more. For gym membership Los get to the final hours speaking a micro U just brought him up. He made a move that some thought he would never make in his history is a coach would tell you what that is in the final hour. We'll get back in the blazers they had a statement win maybe must not against the Cleveland Cavaliers what does Chris manic state. About CJ McCollum in the future of their organization but it's a Thursday's let's start with our change realty NFL challenge who's winning and losing. In the divisional round of the playoffs that's next local ordered Sprague on 1080 the fan.