Jan 11, 2017|
More on the natty, and a bit about Derrick Rose.
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Which means KJ WB seventeen. Mike better how to hood river to tell us that aid puddle could become ice at any moment. So marketing it to the pick plays retirement last mission should game in we have any men tangled. Mean there's so many different story lines very fascinating game went on hurricane and we Marty talked about it before assignments and we probably have another couple hours NS McCullough. O turnovers come on 515 we'll switch gears to the NF fail which I can't wait for this weekend's games yeah the world. You were here yesterday but we discussed the fact that the wild card round was worse than we thought. Yeah I have some commentary on the would you like to hear yeah. We thought it was going to be bad and it indeed it was. So we'll get to trends on the NFL 515 this most of the line sports which is great. As well and that is. How Derrick Rose wound up missing if you're eleventh straight but hey let's stick to the let's fixes to the game here. We'll talk about the pick plays coming up when your thoughts on Matt Miller elements of the game the clemson's receivers a few text though. Ray now raining in Hillsborough mobile. Where it rains good right. We want rain yes rain might turn to ice so I don't think we want anything anymore. I guess what this is out of all the five star guys Saban has had. He couldn't find one in two years they could cover that little 510 walk on white guy that looks like Mike come back for touchdowns against them. A Clinton hill Lotta that too is is give Clinton credit for being very creative on offense. There's a lot of weapons when you are costly haven't rolled coverage over to Mike Williams you've got a dynamic guy on the other side to. And sometimes tricky you can't cover everybody else is receivers. That you wanna talk about let's give credit outside of Shawn Watson to cleanse and in general you only one unit. Look at their receivers receivers were phenomenal they didn't drop balls they made unbelievable catches they executed routes and it wasn't just one guy. Acting like every time you turn around there's a different clubs and receiver make in the catch of the game. And they made more plays down the stretch and it's those were bad coverage plays. What's it like Alabama wasn't on him there was good coverage and do Shawn Watson put the ball word need to be and then those guys went up to me. Freaky spectacular catch is it true that Clemson goes without their top two. This it was up was with other top defensive lineman for the second half yes did he broke the ankle lose the guy wasn't able to go 99. If you were his name was. But yeah one of their big I think he was a freshman to one of their big defensive linemen got hurt and wasn't able to go must have been filling my line. 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You don't write everybody was talking about his trending on Twitter that he was he doesn't bats well for the first half I thought he was the biggest story of the game hey if he's got it flaunt it. Ferraro was the defense of Lima 99 the average your freshman who got her for clubs. This text says that game was a testament to Nick Saban recruiting their talent and criticism masks the weaknesses it's why he was arrogant enough to fire Kiffin that week. That's from teeth. There's elements that sports teach anyone that's now gonna go in and I saw that they were debating on ESP ended what does this do what does this put under dark mark on savings or resonate for his legacy. The guys won five national championships he's won. For an eight years what does it do you gloss to a hell of a football team in Clemson guys Terrell on the last play of the game fire fire fire fire in exit this sexy can answer this Jason seek Hanik yeah it's still a gale like Clemson got the ball on the two for the last play. Pass interference in the end zone. Well but many people are saying if you go I believe that played a pass inference was not Indians. Yeah it was before audience. No I I thought it was in the the ancillary wrapped his arms around him. It depends on what level you're calling you know it's like oh let where where carelessness cystic point you're calling it but. Must feel but it was Al because he threw the flag pretty early I did not. Think it easy night I didn't think getting I know that from a couple different I just if you get if did you get a pass interference call in the end zone goes on the two yard and so I did not. Cheney intention other than as a pass interference call and they got to do now what are they doing in those tents. Going on in there. Hurt well that's examination that steroids that's also where you get the needle and and you get the painkillers and all that sort of stuff so what do they used to do that these guys locker did you guys that locker room to do it or put a towel yet he put the child up until you go there if you wanna go to the bathroom mean going there if you wanna be examined. Especially if it's sometimes you know if you think your pants off. And I think even if it's a groin or hamstring or something and and it just saves you ma'am and go back in the in the locker room. But if you are gonna get a needle then yeah you going there in intake wonder they give you painkillers when knocked we have a couple of text regarding our wine. Rationing outdoor Akron under is that I'm done with her none conundrum the conundrum for a conundrum what. 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And mark ya if I just give me and my delicious nuts if I buy it like the big bag of them because that's the best value. I was sit down and realize that I just polish off. Like three pounds of was soggy omens the charred and so now even though it's more expensive I by the individual packs and it stops me from going over. The worst trick that we try to play in ourselves at least for me. Is under having tortilla chips and you put big locker this also a way like I'm done to him and then you just finished the dad as he left the next on the patched. I don't like playing tortilla chips but he's right you still lead him I would eat chips until they are gone and so for me I realize that I just need to control. The side in the portion otherwise it will keep going in this Texas I love getting to the point in the bottle wine words well that's just silly amount to save. Its so true it really is on the court in that I'm not O. Drilling unit is barely a Def Leppard to go. This is let's just go ahead and do it now. But let's not act like a whole bottle doesn't disappear. Even on solo ninths because a camp. In its like lol. I think had drank the whole thing. General and another board your I mean it was someone else than they have won the last in you're like why didn't drink it by myself. Boy I'm guilty of that on what's funny is you you judge yourself or drinking a whole bottle out but you don't for the quarter of bottled you drink after it. Rockefeller terms saving. It's like Ireland recorder and Allen let's stick it was after all other bomb solid feel OK what about the pick plays we'll talk about that next for fourteen on the ten feet though. All right so Trent Dilfer on. The weekend it was in the NFL look ahead to this upcoming weekend she'd be great. Lisa looks that way on paper got to be at 515. Or talk about Alabama Clemson. He may know that they played last night for the college football. Playoff championship and Clemson won. And they did the game winning play on another one of those rubber out of this pick closes the delegates or Revver or take depending when you're an offense or defense guy yes so do why it like crazy to think of a pass game perhaps Notre Dame where this was a big issue a regular season gimmick that crimson played and they beat them on this same issue with this we debated this has been an issue for years and years and years I know but I'm. Do you that seem ironic about that. Clemson was involved. In a controversy like this and it was Notre Dame and somebody else was there demons was not famous Stanford involved in it. But I may be detects blues in coming out there I seen remember Clemson having been in this before and these are very. These are grade because it's really tee what teams do it seems to meet you could explain better the teams it seems he would teams Tuesday they make it. Kind of muddled and to the point where the referee. But it's what's not obvious to call what they like it but but they're try they're trying to accomplish the same goal at the same goal as a patent. But they're doing it so that it's disguised turns into a basketball play. Where you're you're literally said in a pick in in the NBA you just can't have a movie history. If he if it is that's that's see what it's turned did do is that if you review of the moving screen you're gonna get the whistle blown. And if you set a good hard pick that it doesn't I I feel like gift. So that was legal. Yeah I mean could they if they had thrown a flag I would have had zero problem with it. But did they but they did in the senate did you still have a go and have its problems judgement call it's a judgment call. And I don't feel like in football eight eve gets whistled very much and I feel like it Sheila. I did every year that that NFL in and in college ball put out her. They called a point of emphasis. I feel like pick and rob plays. And then I am I love is the variety that I I think we've taken so much away from defense is that I wanna see stuff given back to run. And I've I feel like those are pretty. I think they're kind of chicken S plays. But I would use them don't gimmicky little gimmicky and yet they were but they were experts in the goal line when you know you've got man to man coverage why wouldn't you do it because it's you really don't even need to make contact. You just have to give the guys here's spit in his ear tell the story yeah all politics is that just half a second hesitation to get his way. And can you habit and it's almost impossible to call us as if there's not contact me. There's some guys that are so good at it they'll actually brought right up to the guy in the they kind of do the old lane get out of the way but it's still stops the guy from from hesitating. You'd do dossier if you're DB and that happens you're almost better off in a situation like that forcing the contact yourself. Running the guy over and defender as a defender and just trying to make a scene out of it because you know when you've been picked especially the goal line you're done. Again it's either you can't do it when it's it's a third one for middle of the field because it's man to man that guy can go where you're at the goal line. If I thought I DBs coach and I'm telling my guys hate you give pick you know you've been date you may contact you run that guy you you don't run into default bound. Do you sell that thing as hard as you can do it and lets you get the flag you're done in by it there's no way to defend. Organ does this a lot organ does have a ton. The overcrowding crossing routes means that same sort of thing your. Lot of guys use he wooed they got rid of the umpire because people would use the umpire run natural optics. It's all about trying to run guys off when you see man to man coverage what is the rule says. You're not allowed to win when it's it has its offensive pass interference you're not allowed to make contact. With the DB when you know a little in the balls in the air a lot of times you act like your blocking and then you go down there in in you do it so. Mean it's if you make contact with the guy you're supposed to have the flag called on you big guys are getting pretty good at it now and I about the clubs and players I did a real nice job of not making it obvious. And it's a wink wink nod nod and dabble after the game commands that yet those are picked plays though we executed real well. And we operated that weird kinda gray area where it's gonna be hard for rafter thorough flag. Especially on the final play of the game like that you know you gotta have. You've got to have some balls that are to throw that pride and I'm glad he did I think like it's a good non call it's like a hail Mary Lou I say hate. Go to the damn ball do not let because they're not gonna call pass interference on hill Larry you know they're just mugged a guy. So this in this instance the clans and the other Clemson receiver. Basically made it look like he got tangled. With. The guy that big guy covering the the due to cut the ball and hollow words. But he's doing it on purpose well and this is what Seattle tried to do in the Super Bowl on the one yard line but the guy jumped Matt Malcolm Butler jumped. It do you make the only light EC jumping and that he C recognized yeah he saw them do it in their in their preparation at city saw the formation he'd be he just he deemed recognize that he knew what was coming and he jumped it. Which is really the only way. You can defend that because if you go underneath its. Then the guys able to get over the top on you if you go over the top. Then you'd you'd sort of read it really is. In some ways it's the Karate Kid it's the indefensible. It'll play it's just it's really. Hard to defend one done properly in Clemson did a properly a couple different times and and got first downs off that the couple touchdowns including the the game winner. Well Clemson is the champ. Mean I. We get some happy for him I. Announced I was kind of happy to see Alabama not win. Strategic well they've won a lot to me can you really feel bad. Firm for Alabama I know you don't feel bad for him you only have four national titles and eight years as opposed to five ball Ganassi uninteresting at Clemson won. Yeah and then Amazon would feel that from saying that. Balancing. And this guy is corrected text program isn't it was it was Florida State Notre Dame a couple of I'll go yes that's what that one's big game wasn't it and it came down the wire yeah they're play as a pick play that's the one it was Notre Dame and Florida State. I just feel I think they should change rules on that yeah I feel like it should be as I feel like if if the referee feels that there there is and it's an intentional played the U should throw the flag. And I think to be easy to get rid of I don't think it be that hard because that everyone knows what's happening on those plays and you just eliminated from the game I think they're they're kind of and I did to me that's not football that's not. You're better than I am I don't even think that necessarily that's a schematic thing I just think it's kind of cheap loophole and I think he should get rid of it. But until they do. Damn might use it Clinton was Smart to sell to use that thing at the end and end up with a wide open touchdown Yasser you're saying the defender needs to sell. The fact that he's hitting picked more I think when it's when it's at the goal line flop a little I would I would I would make as big a deal that is is humanly possible. Did try to drive because you know I like guys flop in the NBA I guess you know the more you get picked at the goal line you are down in your finish there's nothing you're going to do. You're you're a yard or two behind and all they need is one or two yards and and that's the ball game. All right here isn't well one quick and I'll squeeze in here and now this person asking you explain whether it's a penalty. When a downfield blocker tackles the defender this happened when I heard scored on his thirty yard touchdown run. A brother I archer felt like the penalty run that by me again when attacked when a downfield blocker tackles the defender. You know you it's he can't tackle when you're on the offensive side of the ball you yet that's holding. Regardless of what he says he's saying that he saw that happen well it it might and you didn't get called but in the U I don't wanna get a little old. I've I guess I can break down holding for you are you talking about the won't Wear the tide and planted the guy. You can't hold as long as your hands or within the frame holding. Our immediate goal thing here. Holding you can hold the guy like is an office of vitamin that is what you do you try to grab on to their shoulder pads. And you tried to hold you squeezing you grab but as long as you keep your hands in the frame and then we college the but let's let's cause of death split lips college do you lean teens if you will if you're junk is in front of his junkie will never have holding call. I was at the Alec to a wave my offensive line coach Todd it's. If you're crutches lined up what his crotch in your hands are inside the frame. You can grab and hold in Tug and pull and and and turf that guy all you want. We get a holding call is where even if your hands are inside the frame. Your answer out and I hear Hillis like Europe yes when your hips are outside of his hips yeah it's a flag. 100% of the time. And I think the one you're talking about is the back of tight end he'd have sleep planted a guy down on the on that plays talking about. But he had his hips in line with his hips in his hands were inside. The the numbers and that is a 100%. Legal block in fact that is a textbook block. If that guy goes to get away from you and his hips go to the other side of years then you have to release or you'll get a call. Okay now we're gonna. On we have some more hot college football top come up later. We did a promise but did you see how Derrick Rose. Went missing the picture is MIA. And in you know how that happened what what led him to you. Well I don't know if I necessarily believe everything that's out there. It's an interesting story. It's great he's emotional. Leno just just need to spend some time on the NBA guys are more emotional in any other professional sport. Drama that might is that unfair to NBA guys. I think they're very sensitive. Yeah soccer players. But packages and because we see them flopping all the time in and night I don't know I can't speak on soccer other then I just. It's it's laughable the floppy that they goes on but if you're going to talk about materiel on this ballplayers are touchy. And they're very. There's there they're superstitious it's it's a habit sort of thing but I don't routine. I don't think third I think NBA guys are the most sensitive. Pros. Pro bros yeah I wouldn't a lot of fake tough guys a lot of sensitive nannies. A fake tough guys in the UDA ruled the fake tough guys because I think. In the NBA there's not any real real course did. Two pretending to be tough in and some of those sports you kinda have to at some point yet approve it we're in the NBA not so much. You do well and then we you know we've seen the punches thrown in the my favorite is the hold me back those are by far my favorites. Wait till there's nine guys between the two of you then then you go after him the guy. There was these nine guys that their way to get in between is that he's kicking your ass right now. Well that's a topic for another Dan. And up next I'd Derrick Rose. He's been found. It is 430 in here is Mike. My tickets to God's Kennedy though fans. Tiny Kabul NBA knows from. From here on the broadcast today for yield. That is if you're still living and not buried under snow flakes. For affirmation you because it was snowing. World in the. But people agreeing with me that the NBA. Has the most sensitive players. Yeah we've though we've offended a couple over the the last decade or so cannot you know masters. Which they're easy to offend. Remember one I don't know why I mean Susie why is that like a lot of people saying their blood of our liking in them to like come receivers in the NFL. There's an element that's a sensitive lot there once when we had LaMarcus on during his rookie year may USEC a year sass me feel like Lou leading fret. Did you try that we do that everybody again you know you have welcome report you found at least live because they're special someone. Any got all weird about it no we heard from the blazes afterwards that he was livid. That we would asks us as such a question the hard hitting do you have a girlfriend. For heaven's eight disease game lighten up some of what. The guys are very sensitive. The maybe that's all professional athlete I I think sometimes in the NBA. It feels like you've got. It's like sometimes people that are in the stands or people that are watching at home are fifty times tougher. Then. The people there watching little bit users he like look at some of look what just. Mean we don't giggle thing that I'd look at what's and he will do to put food on the table for their kids you know I mean that's like. The definition of toughness is different for everyone who and I saying they're not you know physically strong or what but there. Sometimes they come across as like multimillion dollar nannies you know it's like stop trying to look like you mean the it you don't have. Comparative. Problems. It's amazing scene but yet you and other sorts of things that they get bent out of shape over it does seem but they it seems like there's this whole thing you got to look cool and tough and you gotta you know a nice giant Rio we are not fully anyway reality your bit of the day India and they also do this went to the we I don't pay attention those sorts of things BS they hear every well everything Chip Kelly was master of that. They Charles would do you know I don't listen to Charles would hear everything that was said about him and he held grudges we have in guys full. Like any time you say I have thick skin you know fifty times in a row you don't have guess what that means that you don't have thick skin you're just trying to tell you try to put it stands if you like yourself enough. Then it becomes the truth it's not a lie. If you believe they remain. I Derrick Rose is. In the news today. Knicks point guard. He left the team before their game against New Orleans. Yesterday they got benched was of the game before he was unhappy about it with the hearing what it's like what are you pouting a guy he gonna take your being keen to go long and really adds. You can like eighteen million dollars a year you got beds for heaven's sakes grow up it happens. So he is saying that he did not lead the team for. Team or basketball reasons yeah he left because he had a family issues and emotionally. He can't do that TS Derrick Rose said that he for the first time just felt like he has to be with his. Play we should make light of that I mean maybe that's true. Now now I'm gonna go ahead and make fun of it you got beds and you got butt hurt and so you win and want to spend time with your family that's what happened. But down. On Twitter and this is a joke yeah I'm not. Saying it is true but it was funny it was funny river through this out there is a comedian he said he looked to the schedule and saw. New Orleans and sought and oh but they didn't have a game. And you know what's bad about that is that when I first side to him like I believe that there is among real economic question that really am because I can totally see that happening. I think to your point of why MBA players are so soft. Most of the guys that are in that leak. Have. Com through a culture that never really challenges them. You're always bigger hero we stronger you're always faster if the hole a you'd think there's not a lot of accountability for these guys you have to prove your toughness like union or like in football. No I've if you if you and I found this out early on and it was a little bit like this oh we knew. What I got to college. The fights like you do is there is a high school fights me kinda had to prove yourself a little bit there. But when I got first got to be you are you my first day I actually saw like fight fights. And was like oh will that's how it is like if you were going to talk. Ask to someone. You were gonna fight weather is on the field or in the locker room. And sending an NFL they're you just you it's really hard to be a pretend tough guy hockey is this way even baseball there's a little bit of that where. And so what's gonna bring the Hyde she's actually if you really want to show him up about flip you're gonna take a fastball between the numbers in you're gonna have to deal with it. In the NBA and in basketball I don't. Think that really exist I just don't think there's a lot of account. Billion a lot of have and it kind of shed your chips in the middle of the table and you bring him inching point about the system. In other pampered the whole way it's kind of couples he threw in I think tend to piggyback off that. You have guys. Not all guys but some of these guys come from a rough up greens are a rough neighborhoods. And I do think there is that fine line that they lock of having to stay true to the upbringing in the neighborhood in the old. Crew and everything yeah there you have to stay the appearance of hard street right. But you're not in anyway IQ are pampered at every level and that's where that did there it's almost an act. You know that's unseen fooling anybody I would we're sitting out here with real jobs in real struggles and your cashing paychecks which by the way. Aren't going away no matter how bad do you play even if you get hurt they'll pay you to go away now it's just not any fun don't you know flawless. They get into the hole where I'm from thing. It's like you. If you come the duke players get made fun of this gritty you'll always talked about this they Grant Hill got made fun of for being an uncle Tom yeah thank you come from a a weld a new family with two parents and that's Ari that's viewed as though a blight on year old CV really. Sorry that I I have loving parents stiff stiff curry got this dude go whole look at pampered Rich Boy over here. If somehow it's a bad to bartered it come from the worst place on earth and have like your mom addicted to crack in your dad ran out on you but there is. An element of that where it's not cool. To come from suburbia with two parents and there's an element of that that kind of wanna be sort of toughness thing it's very interest. I love to hear athletes. Did this is like Dion spoke the new autopilot as it's taboo you know but I do feel like Q when you get called to the carpet on it. Well at that. How many guys would actually well they often are called how many guys would actually respond if you really came we know push come to shut I saw this a lot. Where you had guys that woods that would come and I told the story we ID. You his all American tight and you some Camby his name was may twenty. And he was like this four star kid he was like to crown jewel of our recruiting class that was my he's sophomore or junior year. And he showed up on campus and we had an all American linebacker named rob Morse and rob went. Fourteenth or fifteenth in the NFL draft first round one of the best defensive players I ever saw and he played thirteen years the NFL guy was an absolute stud. And there was jury navy summer drills where there is no pads and Nate. Started talking. Yes to rock how we couldn't cover him. And robs response was to just beat the living hell out of them busted his nose bloodied him up he was never the same after that. For the first time in his life that guy's mouth. Wrote checked it is but couldn't cash in my and I I separate thought about how many times is that kid. Talk crap to everyone and has always been just a bad ass and no one's ever done anything well. You called out the wrong guy and I'm sure he thought that it was just gonna lead to some more trash talk and Rockies beat the hell out of him and I think sometimes those things can fresh Turkey and can fracture your psyche so much. You're just never the same after that it's like you the invincibility goes away. But I do think in the NBA. And in basketball in general I think that facade is way more than any other sport because like you said there's very few opportunities I think where that toughness is actually. Called to go to the map. All right. Up next Oregon loses a key. Player. Gone. Doctor Taggart is taking no heat for doctor Taggart a site column to move in on doctor. Doctor way with precision doctor of domination with Doug. Possess was up to doctor of domination. And I'm making an OK a full 45 on the fan. I'm revising its two guns. Nobody in the last segment was all about well. Only hinder those derivatives hostilities blazers are playing tonight they're at the lakers yes. So why should he win. Certainly it's like they had better be competitive with. Use that to them. Was little Dicey the other night. Hey you know those great game that is a military games awesome at the Laker ball yet get the drug game was it was great just came out on the wrong end a double overtime and many don't get many better gains and then and know the home team didn't win but I just in from an entertainment standpoint that was because he gets. In Lotto was mentioning free throws. There we got the 324. Free those each team shot twelve free to the double overtime game and a and it just made her great great launch anyway. We're talking about NBA players being nannies we'll probably get in trouble for this. Effect I know it. And you'll calls on the Chrysler is gonna come down and punch you in the face. Well I mean you know the other thing about that too far we get to the Jalen brown straight is. You said this multiple times and none of these are. These aren't. Defendants. In apply law oh yeah there's exceptions but. This is a dirty little secret of sports professional sports. It is that's. How many guys. Are really pretty lazy. Thank you think fit to get to the there's this idea that to get to the pinnacle of anything and they are the top point 5% in their craft in the world. Any NBA guy any. In even some scrub the NFL ranked they are at the peak level of what what they can achieve in that profession. There's this idea that T get to that level in any profession sports or otherwise you half to absolutely work your ass. And it's not always the case these guys are a lot of these guys not all. A lot of them many of them are born with a lottery ticket of ability that if they just keep their heads screwed on straight. They're getting to the show now the difference between the truly elite ones in the guys that are in the league is that sort of dry dry but that. Yes you have to let the what other job. Can you will not be lead had it right now. But still makes. A hundred million dollars in your career very few at any coaster weight of fifteen million dollar to one is is kind of laughable lot times I get asked to go speak at schools in this is always one of those messages that I have as we all want to believe. That if you just work hard enough in little Timmy doesn't push ups and runs and we didn't we we get cameras dad did I have a private. Straight to conditioning coach and we go send to speak camp. That you can beat dole no you can't locked in order to beat an MBA player in order to be an NFL player. Someone at birth reaches down and you were creating gives you basic genetic makeup that allows you to have that sort of ability what you do with fit. Certainly plays a huge role they and there are some people that he said are so talent they don't have to do a lot others have to maximize every inch of its. But they gave if I decided when I was twelve to go out and I was gonna be the center for the Los Angeles Lakers don't. I'm not because I'm 63. I wasn't going to be a receiver. No matter how much are ran I was not genetically predispose to deal wide receiver so there there is an elevated to. This it's it's kind of laughable when we sold the Rudy dream. Two looks like Diaz my job and he's an MBA player he must never give up and being he's been working so I give you Travis Outlaw. You know it's tokenism and lazier human being and good luck trying the. And I mean cocaine now a means Coca-Cola poses thought it he's just a freak deftly done any news made lot of money up and that's not. It's just I don't know I think sometimes it's not mention enough when talking about. A sports in some of these some of these dudes in so then you get there and you make millions and you wanna show how tough do you mean. You interrupted me. And look we're not tell we're sports talk shows we'll do this I was kind of funny and in football because again that was my back and say and there are a lot of people out there. Then like they're the true definition of toughness yet and it ain't multimillion dollar in BA basketball player sorry guys. Don't test me because I wouldn't wanna he's crazy he really had crazy tough aunt and physically tell us it really body slam Michael door if you remember that one the idea he busted his rib. The good the funny thing about leg football guys especially that sort of culture. And I I just I love it that focal guy no matter how old he gets like real football guy. Believes that he can kick anyone's ass because he played football right that's the part that I always found funny that I played football I am tough. Not necessarily do it I've seen you can't fight your way out of a paperback. There are some guys that have played with the were legitimately terrifying human beings. And it's worse some of the da baddest dudes on the planet but. There is the sense that if you play for all they years some sort of super bad ass he just beat everyone up. Our private about the little abuse there half your size double what your ass in a heartbeat because that's what they do. That's good there's this it's this kind of this wouldn't achieves those sort of culture. That you play sports and we we associate sports with physical toughness and therefore you must be. Like did. You know your your Bruce Lee incarnate and like I watched live karate movie want so I know I did use a round house kicks knowing you don't. It's very interesting experience I just wish I think what it is it a Swiss more guys would admitted in announcing nobody would ever know we will ever met Iranians is born with. Really did jumper it. And M profiting off its sorry. Worked out are really weren't getting that much much white guys on YouTube Newton. There are and well indeed said that he said he improved his number about watching white guys on YouTube really keep their Evelyn. Whatever we did a whole bit on to remain welcome to show it to remember that. Look we talked about a lot of things and not just like MBA player white guys just like I disliked his talking dudes in general out of the playground and let god that no one will come out and admit no one Mozilla just that it's this god given gift because no one wants this. Want Hillary diminishes well. In the age shouldn't be diminished but all Carl what does that lottery ticket congratulations. And that the the problem with that is is there's a ton of people soon lottery ticket and they never catch again well that and there are other people who. Had it but also. We're diminish mean via the level of work and dedication they put in beginning you know what I love is when the Julian elements of the world yeah. Or Colby's. Guys like ethics ideally like to say because it's. Always the white guy it's never the small black guy that gets labeled with this it's always the white guy and we talked about Julian element is if somehow. He's like five foot nuts you know hunt it you seen Jillian element. You know what kind of athlete that guy is he he also is a freak yeah that's what we talked we I'm not gonna say I'm friends but I am friendly. We Dan Dick out. And he got this because he's a white basketball player. Dude that guy when I went I've I went to high school a rival high school that I was such big goal barn physical freak. I was like a junior. In in high school he was six foot and was throwing down like reverse two hand stuffs. I wasn't just some white guy that was like I worked really hard and bought the stupid jumps Jews. And that I learned how to get a vertical if that guy is a physical for Steve Blake is a physical freak dad I like trades and they may end Mike does try apple wants. Isn't some of the best shape you'll ever see. But we want to create this image that any harm Dicker hairy. Off the street if you do enough push ups and you take enough weight Gainer that somehow you'll turn yourself into an elite athlete and its. Like that is that's one of the biggest lies we tell our kids in it's such a disservice. That we don't we spread that day it's it's almost that sometimes the message you can be anything you want well. Yeah not really. Really want to strive for killed it. Be prepared to fail acids and that's the story I I often tell when when kids ask me it's like cape when I was a kid I wanted to be Kareem Abdul Jabbar but. Figured our real quick that I wasn't gonna be magic and I wasn't going to be Kareem and I wasn't gonna be Clyde Drexler. It gives. And that's. It's it's not realistic you don't think there than the other one is too. They give you wanna go win a marathon you're gonna win Olympic gold and in in the marathon are you from East Africa. Is if you're not. And that young women not merit you doing Gail and her up finish there fifth about that though that's the only guy that ever. Only American to every team and to ever metal. But that's amazing how he said. I think I thought he was the. Plays are well laid they admitted it's just. We don't talk about it quite enough it kind of gets spun into this glory story like yeah I'm out of Rudy and now it's not doing nearly eight Rudy that guy with the best athlete at every level that he ever played OK and I did tease that Oregon has lost a wide receiver Jaron brown has announced that he is he's going to lead the program. And assume he did he he's graduating in three years got scrape those sophomores graduate in three years and he's gonna have two years of eligibility is a graduate transfer yeah. And so you know pretty good enough to sit out a year or anything like baton hit when once the classroom man. But Italy when you're on in this. Say about the way for taking events 'cause I'm sure he was their year around spring summer classes. Other guys don't do that lot of guys just kind of take that that time off and just kind of puts around for him for putting his head in the books and now he's gonna be rewarded by. Not having to sit out a year and go pick a place that you know these happier out maybe get a better chance I'd putt putted five's next alternatives into the National Football League big games this weekend should be good games seems like. Trent Dilfer ESPN will join us at 515 on the San.