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Dirt & Sprague, Friday 1-6-17 Hour 2

Jan 6, 2017|

The guys wonder if the Blazers are turning a corner or barely treading water...preview the Seahawks-Lions playoff game, and debate the greatness of Mike Tomlin.

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Pay its break here really appreciate you listening about to get some podcast excellence has presented by less Schwab tires doing the right thing since 1952. Durbin spray gun Flint mall Friday on 1080 jokes. I meant the autumn wind is a pirates. Blustering in from sees. Little rollicking song it's. Swaggering voice. Football Friday additional third and spread. Revenue award winning high from series for your football viewing party series cafe and highs fresh local there. Third and sprayed on 1080 goes CNN. All right welcome back in two year radio show's second hour here on the fan. Can you missed our one check it out less front tires podcast which we need out after spring in 1980 defend afterwards. We've already got attacks on Mike Tomlin and I can't wait to talk about Mike Tomlin at 130 because I think our money goes the other way she guys to really pissed her off you wanna give me all hot and bothered yet you Ernie hot and bothered so much I guess I don't understand that it's. What what are we getting into what are we just did you have did you. And just hold. What are we really criticizing just told my man of a lot to get to attack by the Seahawks lines wildcard match up and at crunch time in Minnesota PJ fleck they're gonna be role in the boat. I wrote a boat to me Indianapolis that's a jinx situation and take over well and I think a lot of people are gonna kind of beyond. Organ Minnesota watch for sure of comparing what Taggart vs what fleck is a and is that the beavers open our next year are we to. Cameras as the opening its weak choose to become an elderly stadium the B roll on the boat Corvallis next year I can't wait for Darrion are simple low level robo up when they come into the stadium. Should did slash industries plays row row row your boat both talk about that the let's start hour two with the the Portland trailblazers. Couple observations remain on the swipe argues her in the update they have a draft pick now if doesn't matter now at a draft pick. I think it speaks volumes of what they're thinking right now and what they think about the roster. The second is I was sitting in 119 I pretty good seats that my cousin got. And you know watching and I can see Neil O Shea jest it felt like twenty feet from me that's how close I felt too. And I kept looking down and they give them 38 points in the second quarter of the crowd was like what is going on here. And the lakers at 62 at the half it was not a good feeling. And I kept looking at the old Shea and I know they won the game but it was funny because even when they were up. He just does not look like he enjoys watching this team and it just has not a good mood face at all times when they came back in the second half and they took that lead and then they kind of held onto it throughout the fourth quarter yet. You could still see him. Looking like. What the belief is going on because we talked about how that was a must win game they talked about it. And when we say before the show. Don't go into these games thinking dogs the lakers they're gonna win that easy then you give a 38 points in the second quarter you're trailing at half and because of the inexperience and youth. And a little dysfunction just because of those two things the lakers find themselves losing a ball. Levin Portland got away and that they needed that they should a minute that's a game they should lead and I I don't look at them as guarantees are locks anymore but I still look hidden in a lot of teams in the NBA and and put the word should win by the lakers are one of those opponents and you know Terry Stotts talked to the media before the game I saw. A lot of people through this out I saw what can creators friend of the show. Who sent out there at the quota Terry Stotts saying look these next three games are must wins for us. Must there's no other way to put it these next three games against the lakers twice in the Detroit Pistons are games that we half. Two went and we have not that sense of urgency yet to this point it's always been well all figured out well we're gonna right the ship well we're playing better. And now they're they're putting a serious sense of urgency on it which I love to hear because we talked about yesterday on the show and I really feel this eight game stretch that they got coming up now seven after the win last night is gonna decide the direction of the seasons so the one for one. And that's a good starts and and look it was a pretty no you give a 38 points in the second quarter to a Laker team it's not that good. But at this point if your still of the opinion you want them to turn it around he wanted to get to maybe a six seed in the Western Conference. You gotta start pollen there's a dot US not matter. I'm getting succeed and that's just I know we we you you broke down yesterday really well. On what their record has to be what was it eighteen and six you said before the Laker game that just a match were they did last year OK they they may or may not do that. They're not getting a succeed that is out of the realm possibility to me now if they're handed eight just a gift of injuries. In May be may be if that happens but I just you look at the records right now they are so far back and they are so down right now. That's is not happening if they're making it the making it is a seven seat act passed but probably going to be an eight seed. And it ages to put you in the same thing that we briefly discussed of why you want that do you want that at all but this team is adamant that they still think they are figuring things out. The rotations are kind of being solved like Myers and got a ton a time when dame went out with the injury. Didn't play one minute yesterday yeah I was a coach's decision DNP you can argue that it's about matchups but mas goth was playing in Myers is much bigger than any Davis so. To me it's not always about matchup sometimes I just think coaches don't like certain things players do in from game to game some of those guys. Get stuck on the invention Meyer's last night. It was one of those situations but. Just for them defensively and this is why again last year I don't need to tell everybody this but wipe people out there that say last year look at the record located this year. It's not the same and last and I felt that way even with the wind because this Laker team is not like you said very good. And they were scoring at will and just started cling to them late in the fourth quarter. Yeah they did and yet they did it did the second quarter was was a little. Egregious if you hope for the lakers to score 38 points but. That's Gorham by eighteen in the second half I at least like to see that it was nice to see dame back in the lineup I thought he was efficient he didn't foresee thing you'll meet a fourteen shots. Which isn't a whole lot thriller he played 36 minutes didn't seem to have any ill effects of the injury had ten assists it was nice to see. A CJ McCollum continue his good play and another positive would be Evan Turner I'm Turner's been somebody that we've picked on all season long he hasn't played great. Had a season high twenty points last night it was 7-Eleven from the floor. He was money for them in the second huge in the second half for them so those are little positives and and I think that's just where I do watching these next eight games now down to seven. It's just it is gonna tell you all you need to know because last night the talk in the locker room was we if we restore figured out the learn how to quote. And the post game simmer righting the ship were figuring things out we've played better defense in the second half when we needed to. Hubble CM and that's audited middle play itself out here if they continue to play good basketball. May be their right but seven of these next eight starting with last night under our teams that are bad her teams and of the blazers play good basketball they can win and they go on a stretch like that then maybe there are back. In a conversation play by the way where I sat I had four people behind me. Really nice people we talked throughout the game I sat down immediately when I got there and all I heard was laughing and chuckling. Making fun of number fourteen on the lakers. And I I did to me is second for whatever reason I just forgot and I am looking at number fourteen the lakers know lake. Caddie was a long distance runner he weighs a 110 pounds who is that why is he starting. And I figured out who was they were talking about and I turnaround ago. That's just brain inning draining your list he's number two big hundred draft isn't there a hole where he to a school duke. Oh did you play with Mason. Now now. A little later than Mason's he's very good but he's a very good player for a guy like it is fun because there and we got that in in this is highlights for you said we talked about yesterday but about. Winning them to lose ball games you know somebody said they need to screw their heads back on and focus on the draft pick one of our. Glad they have the capability of winning all. Think they have the capability winning at all and it's painfully obvious. They are even good seam side in that that's one of those debates will continue to have is what's better a 67 or eight seed Horry a lottery draft pick but that's second ago away. Don't think I mean their half game behind what Sacramento for the eight spot. I believe that's the Upton I'll look at it don't you think they're just gonna back in the eight spot in a matter how crappy play they had too much pride in the air too much yet. To completely fall apart and the only way it goes south is live. All Shea. Empty some of the roster and gets draft picks to go that route I completely agree like that and that's what we briefly tied for the juicy swagger was do you want that Dijjer you're going to get swept by Golden State it's not even a question of all at oral Koppel last year no sir I'm gonna have those games are gonna look like one you saw Wednesday night. War or don't like the ones we lost by forty against they would dame it's gonna be one of the other but I think don't even really play well there in that they give them a stretch they Iran. You know they'll take a lead in the third quarter possibly here in the Arab but they'll end up losing by ten points. Well and and I did want to highlight and has Mars and as you mentioned didn't play last night he was a DNP and an Ed Davis ended up getting the bulk of those minutes and Ed Davis. Last night played sixteen minutes hit eight rebounds and as I had that's pretty good production right not bad for a guy getting some. And I decide what looked at Meyers Leonard game logs this year he's played in 34 games now and I don't he has met her I don't think so a lot of those have been DN piece that he hasn't appeared in. 34 times he's played this season you know many times he's had more than five rebounds and game used. I'll take 450. Count five times in 34 games he's had more than five rebounds he had two games was six rebounds. One game with nine India's two games all season double digit what is he just have against Golden State where they almost won because Twitter was telling me that he was being amazing that night where I thought he was dominating him one rebound. Hit one rebound one rebound the other night against Golden State the lord knew he had seven points one rebound well and the other thing too because I Erica Anderson who does a podcast called locked on blazers talks blazers. If he said that you know Ed Davis playing with little or back isn't too surprising just because of what he can do and how he fits in with CJ in game. And a lot askew was screen action in and knowing kind of where he needs to be on the court. And it is funny to me because people freeze Meyers Leonard for his ability set screens and it's a site I wish he would fit in. With them like I rash was it some I wish nobody would say allege Davis playing over Myers makes sense would deem and CJ. I want that I'd prefer that should be a Meyers Leonard and Ed Davis so. Places get a when they do beat the lakers they get that Detroit on Saturday who just beat Charlotte that was a funny ending to a basketball game if you missed it. Belinelli through an inbounds pass off the back of one of the pistons caught it and I saw John I didn't counted though right it was too long as it was point five seconds left but the Beantown. As they kick off a road trip on Saturday. Well the Seahawks blow up the lions. Or. We have a close game was casino Slokar match up next on event. Are right we talked about we talked with Dan Miller yesterday lions play by play man we talking Warren Moon yesterday. Houses in gonna go there right now it's an eight point spread. Magic scooter Dahlia little magic leader does sprinkle on this ball game Miley don't forget spring line 230 I will be spring line on this game. White also don't forget now all we we had a great time with Kevin Todd my bookie they were great all season long that is done now yeah so I'll bring your sakes sponsors back at 230 yellow reads fake sponsors again we have been able to do that since August that'll be a lot of fun if it when you look at some of the trends in this when I I do think that. A lot of hum favor Seattle a first and foremost is the home field advantage factor that they're just so dominant this season the only game they lost at home was that one and there is against Arizona in week sixteen. Other than that they were seven and one at home and I think more concerning to would just simply be that Matt Stafford injury and I think that is the big cloud that hangs over this game for Detroit where. Matt Stafford prior to and hand injury since Jim Bob cooter took over as his offensive coordinator. Forty touchdowns and seven picks in his last three plus or so gain since they hand injury three touchdowns and five pick gas so that the numbers have gone down a little bit. Our resident sue talking about this yesterday how they get they've been on the offensive line. That originally pleaded Iran depleted their running back cited that there are those are the things and letting go against Detroit the first and foremost. If you're going to be Seattle at this point especially score points on him in that building. You have to be able to stress a field and you have to be able to have a good passing game with Earl Thomas out of the lineup and I don't. I don't know how much I trust Detroit to be able to do that to a winning impact with the Stafford hand injury now you did find. Something interesting about the lines because some people think this is gonna be a blowout was the archer roll on and right now the spread is eight so basically they're saying. It's gonna be a double digit victory for Seattle if you take the point if you take Seattle. Minus the eight. What was the thing that you had found about the lions this year. In terms of them against this thread yet. Then against the spread just getting you know in terms of how they lose or how they win in their last 24 games they've only lost two of those games by more than a touchdown. So they're usually pray that in those few of those to those those two games came in their last three that was to the giants' sixteen to seven and then to the cowboys. In week sixteen with a loss like 41 point formerly was a fine that's right on Sunday Night Football they got steamrolled and now wind so those are the only two games in Los but more than a touchdown just an FY may be eating the lions have released slipped to the point where that stat is he relevant and they are going to get blown out. That I tend to believe that Seattle. It kind of ruined my spring and wind picked whatever I tend to believe those Seattle should be able to. Pull away from this when I set a couple days ago I got the spread was a little too high I still think spreads like that in the playoffs I hate betting on number I'm all over Detroit plus ABC I want her to goes the other way dirt just because of what Ian Miller told this yesterday. And basically asked him point blank if they do blank right veil find themselves in this if not really close to being and it. Any Pete talked of pass rush and he says you have to get to Russell Wilson put the pressure and make him move make him feel comfortable. And if you don't he's gonna take you apart all day. They just don't have that and their third down the snow and weighs 31 in percentage so Seattle even if they're stuck in third and fives and thirty sevens are third and longs. They aired they should be just based on percentages don't have an easier time against Detroit than they would some of the other teams in the playoff I guess. I look at their rushing totals and in the last time. I can't remember last time they had tobacco for a hundred yards and in terms of Seattle and and that would be something that I I just I think he was four games ago. For yet you cross state it was rolls against Carolina when they blew out Carolina in week thirteen and December 4 he went for a 106 cents then their leading rusher 67 yards 34 yards 36 yards. 55 yards those of their leading rusher the last four weeks of the NFL season. And I'm not saying that Detroit has the stout front seven they can shut anybody down. But they're leading rusher against San Francisco at 55 yards San Disco had one of if not the worst defense in the NFL. And that's something that Seattle throughout these runs they've gone on the playoffs. Has been able to rely on I love Russell Wilson I think he's as good as anybody in this league especially at escaping in creating in the pocket. But they've been able to turn him turnaround in the ball off to Marshawn Lynch and he'll go for four front yards a pop and it just makes things so much easier for them. Where they can control the pace of the game they can control the clock. It puts Russell Wilson and winnable situations. And not have that I don't think it matters what defense are going against week seventeen proves it sowed in week sixteen against Arizona. Russell Wilson was a leading rusher with 36 yards. And if they can't run the football that's I just don't see them being able to pull away. And when by any easy margin how do you think. Hiding twelve would take the last lines that I I think it would be a serious look in the mirror moments I ever did you. For church well exam for further to Seattle management the only two matches earlier in the show that. Last year they should have lost a wild card round they didn't Obey they won the game Minnesota Shanksville lol that's fine they shuttle lost decade. And the next round they got blown out the first half came back made it it game in the second half and lost Carolina ultimately. If they aren't able to win I know you can point to the Earl Thomas injury that's huge is one of the best defensive players in the league. The big issue and I think the reason they would lose this game would be because the offensive line that Russell Wilson's under constant duress. As I mentioned they can't run the full ball in their fur they can't put points up. And I add that is a serious moment where they think they've been able to they think they can get away with having a below average offensive laden in India can't be lines in the first round playoffs the wild card round. That to me tells you all you need to know and I think you have to seriously look at our right in do we need to start making some tough decisions maybe with some of our key players to go find a good offense well we've got to. Double. It bias your own merger I hate the Seahawks like just based on how we've talked about them in their playoff chances. And I've seen some people nationally on good morning football I've seen some guys and ESPN. Your door courses in teams not to overlook Seahawks. I just don't knowing maybe this is based on watching Seattle in the post season during his run. Since they won the Super Bowl. I don't know what those people watched and I respect a lot of people with that opinions or maybe I'm the it. But this Yeltsin is not like those other C ox teams that are going in and they're saying oh they're well when a 105 and one on the season. Everybody's overlooked enemy now they have a playoff game if they win mr. Condit is gonna peak. Again they win they're gonna feel good about themselves but ultimately they're gonna have a hard task in the divisional round and a tough ask especially with how depleted the yard where there. You weaknesses are so I just don't know why people think it's almost anti C docs to just admit this team. Not that good they're not as good as some of those other CR teams that we can certainly not a 2013 no sir and on a team that lost it and that second suitable are the one yard line no. Nor even a team I think last year that probably shouldn't a woman while car games still to. Eight and and then lost in the divisional round yeah and N a job with John that I did there's no reason and did there. You should be able to point out the flaws of this team and in a lot of it has to do with the injuries and I'm not gonna disagree with that they give you wanna say that's the reason. They're struggling it's one of the reasons not have a general Thomas is huge you can't replace a player of that caliber. But a lot of that also has to do with the management decisions they've made now that they're tough decisions and I. It's so easy to Monday Morning Quarterback those of say what do you pay alien not pay yeah but they've made the choice of same we can get by with a crappy off principle and because I think a lot a big reason they made that. Decision Dirk was because one they weren't gonna pay certain guys what they got on the open market and to. VA because of their success to find talent during this run. There's always a little arrogance involved no I love John Sara love Pete Carroll they've done an exceptional job but they really did go into training camp and say. You know let. We can do this and can make a makeshift offensive line because last year's was one of the worst and we got buying after the divisional round will be okay Zachary brawls and get healthy. Will be back in this thing no problem they spent 11% of their salary cap on the offensive line. 11%. On arguably the most important position group in all four. What how much it of their salary is spent on what nine players a play I mean do we look to chancellor Thomas Sherman will send Jimmy Graham now right now and it yup. And and that that is probably I would I don't know the numbers of the top Wagner Wagner I'd be willing to bet that sixty to 70% a year salary is right there on a handful of players and and that is I mean that's what they're gonna have to figure out somebody Texan and you know we avoided giants whose ability pass rushing the NFC playoffs I guess that's true to a certain point. But it you don't need Italy pass rush to the pressure to Seattle offense one that's the problem yet did you just had a competent offensive line. I would agree with that like hey we can hold most people back from their struggling against San Francisco. And and that's just apparently get a fix itself your one week later in the playoffs and not on yet that's the interesting part somebody sent people say you guys say the Seahawks not because of your current predictions. But regular bias against. I'm like I pick him to to win the Super Bowl last year I remember I had an opinion three years ago that people still remind me of and I am I guess I could still stand by at a certain point I said three years ago I would take Russell's number Andrew Luck. Yeah you did I did you did a lot of Caminiti is that you ate dinner election. You like Russell Wilson Graham buys you are by as you hate to see ox let's the somebody says if we avoid the giants there's no a leak pass rush. In the NFC playoffs there is when your offensive line is the worst in the NFL. That's something to think about lend an Indy Jimmy Graham one is something that you know they they traded. Max under for Jimmy Graham yes is a deal that kind of started the dismantling of fuel their offensive line another agency really freed as he did it you know get it that was a part of it but in and somebody sixteen and Trey Graham for an offensive line can be flippant pack in trade Jimmy Graham. And trying to get the lead something left tackle center or whatever it would everything the biggest need is yeah I was break the line without one at 238. Dirt to really hot and bothered. Is Mike Tomlin great. Good. War meant. As a head coach Kelly former Pittsburgh Steelers says he's not very good that's next. They won't Mac daddy Friday 130 still there it's regular and dedicated fans it is quite sensitive fan bases are funny and we all have moments like this is fans. I do it like that with the giants I'd do it all the time somebody says some bad about it you get all hot and bothered. That is why you know one of our he wants to and in that five I terrified. If you guys did hate the Seahawks who don't even cares is that I'm a huge cowboys fans Sprague openly just said earlier that he hates him and roots against them every single week. The name blink. It ruined my AA might gap that now mean that's look I don't wanna go Downey Gilbert wrote of that conversation the tolls are an easy yellow brick road to go down I have never. And this goes back to almost child that I've never cared if people in my team I almost enjoy it it makes it more fun grass. Because you you tune into different radio shows do you watch shows with with personalities right. And when that person passes a team that you love to get to Farrah. There is nothing that makes it even better win they win then saying I'll like I was an idiot you know I'll give you an example for me. I've never really like skip Bayless. I used to kind of be injures his leg out and it's sports debate is interesting what's going on but as soon as he went on LeBron stuff I just would be. What a moron my guys are winning and really care though you know and then LeBron when it's out of what's he have to do get on TV and try to explain how LeBron is not responsible for them winning a championship ready as the back of his argument and good luck and that one might I can say I hate the cowboys my brother's a cowboys fan. And so we go back and for the all the time. In this cowboys win. I'm not gonna hear the end of it and what am I gonna say back. I still hate your team but dammit man what in its funny guy and don't wanna go to fight and Israel but it is funny because I think people bull and then again brawl guilty of this at times you can selectively listen because we had at CI can text back in and said well. It's the whole Boise guys always pick apart the Seahawks ignore other team's flaws they beat the pats in Foxborough. They're always dangerous in the playoffs and implement that that's true and I remember is finding people dizzy with him when he hears sometimes because granted I don't like the Seahawks have said that before and I'll say it again. I remember the Monday after that Sunday night game when they beat New England in Foxborough. I came on so that was the statement went in the NFL season that the CI to that point were 6211. Yup they just beat Tom Brady in Foxboro the only team by the way to beat Tom Brady this year. In the way they were playing at that juncture in the season I symbol come for another Super Bowl round I sit here comes Dallas Seattle in the NFC title game likely Seattle back the Super Bowl. Now I change my opinion because they lost 38 to ten degree day Earl Thomas went down the loss at home to Arizona and it barely beat the 49ers. But these this season ended differently and that's when my opinion that chain. I still not sure I'd feel that they'd be great to be in a Super Bowl. But if they have Earl Thomas I mean my opinion is just night and day different and I said that when he got injured when it was announced he was on IR he was done. He he might be deemed most. I know Russell Wilson and how urban loves quarterbacks he really might be one of if not the most important leaders of that team and to just simply leave gloss over then say up now but the line sucks no oral Thomas but no worries are still dangerous is always yeah they're not you have to admit faults in your teams sometimes onerous say Bieber fans. Felt our three mile fault I have to talk about their Saturday they go bees about that is still hope your team goes out there and surprising gets w.s. But the Seahawks are missing their defense and leader and their often divides the words family. Yeah I that's enough on ZR ten side we always said there there they get rolled anybody in campaign I don't care who we are they just trying to literal pin it's slow zooms are good at that man coming up at the top of the hour. But talk a little national title game talk a little rowboat here for crunch time but. In all all it takes now he gets out people fired up the body a certain individual or certain team is usually just a hot take to come out of nowhere. And this happened recently somebody said it was non news now but I still want to talk about it 'cause I think it's rather funny. And that's former athlete became Allopod take mr. eyebrow shot Terry brash optimistic. Came out had this to say about Mike Tomlin. I don't think he's a great coach us at all. He's he's a nice code to these that you MEI. And I've said this that Australia. He's he's he's really a great cheerleader guy I don't know what he does. But Irish I don't think that he's a great coach at all memory his main memory pops in my mind when and we think about greed killed two coaches in the NFL. Okay there's your I'd take for the day that's first of all what did Terry Bradshaw have and his mug. Yeah it's he's and I know it I've been there all day pride done that was speak for yourself well they're on fox sports once we pride and in the morning and then on with Colin and then stuck around for the TV show. Yeah I did that this is not Willis takes like it if it depends on what you're debating here right and because he starts the ramp by saying he's not a great coach at all I don't know what he does. And Manny follows it up with well when you talk about great coaches in the NFL he doesn't even pop and in my mind those are two different conversations like they are we debating whether or not Mike Tomlin. As one of the best coaches in the NFL is all listen right I mean there's a lot of guys you put in that conversation that I had great track records in this league you don't wanna put a leader top five. That's why I understand that argument. Sees terrible head coach the guys never had a losing season and he's he's been the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers now says 2007. Is never had a losing season the worst he's gone as he would a make twice he's won a Super Bowl he's been to another Super Bowl and came damn near close to beating the Green Bay Packers. To to say he's not good head coach. Is ridiculous so where would you go great gutter man I'd go good at at the very I think between good and great because I was thinking about great. And what that kind of means just to me. I don't know if I don't know if my list is longer than. Yeah how many great coaches are there in the NFL Belichick Carol. I'll give me any reader nod their dismay what he's in Kansas City and Philly now. I mean outside of that I can't think of any else that as at three. I have three what I call great now there's a tie on a good coaches but what's funny to me is you know the Tomlin thing what does he do. That's that's a valid question I don't really know what his specific specialty is for that team maybe years of rob rod guy and that's his role. But it's always finding me that we gloss over one of the most important parts of being a coach in pro and college sports. Hiring the right people yeah it's hiring the right staff in getting the right coordinators and having the right assistance. Atomic coaches out there Urban Meyer let's take her remark Urban Meyer nobody would debate that he's not a great coach Wright wrap. What did their offense do you this year against good teams great teams Michigan one of home. Did the playoff game that he displayed. They went scoreless against Clemson when they lose last year. Well they didn't have a I Tom Herman situation going down the coordinator. That didn't really pan out for them in their offense didn't look the same urban Meyer's not any less of a great coach he lost a big part of what makes him great. And that happens in sports it's all about who you hire who's on your staff who's doing the extra stuff. That maybe you're not created EI I do I want to play this Wal-Mart and I think there's been some can get let let's play this Terry Russia audio market. Yeah I don't think he's a great coach us at all. He's he's a nice coach in these it to me I. And I've said this that Australia. He's he's he's really a great cheerleader guy I don't know what he does. But I. I don't think that he's a great coach at all memory his main memory pops in my mind and and we think about great Celtic coaches in the NFL. It is a funny cute is there at the end like it if you think that that is being complementary in my toddler in my opinion on it is is similar I but I just don't understand he said I don't know rice coach he's he's a nice coalition but that's a -- basically a nice face saying he's bad and he also says that he's a cheerleader in any follows that up with I don't know what he dies who I don't know what he does if you think that's him backing Mike Tomlin is a quote unquote good head coach. That's five I just disagree indeed. Collins on this rant last couple days back to Terry Bradshaw the saudis see happen on his shows why understand why he's doing and trying to. Like people use jargon a well he won mr. Malloy had he inherited Big Ben I had to without refuse Europeans text in that they agree that he's not decorate shirt and a great roster in the division side that's fine if you give him if you say the only reason he's won because he inherited big -- you could do that for so many different head coaches you really could like Bill Belichick gets the credit for Tom Brady Tom Brady was a six round draft pick. If he was so Smart such a genius why do you wait till the sixth round draft McCarthy got Favre and Rodgers is far EI exactly Rodgers McCarthy Graco Rodgers fell all the way to what twenty something in the first round that makes McCarthy to genius Pete Carroll took Russell Wilson in the third round. If he if he was so bullish on Russell Wilson is a great quarterback widely taken in the second round of the first round with their pick like. The say the only reason he's whining is because a big man. As it's is laughable to me he's got got laid down bell Antonio Brown he's had to replace some great players like Hines Ward Troy Polamalu and he continues to win in in. The one argument that does bother me the most on all of it. As the folks that say he's in a terrible division. I just I don't understand that what's the weather Cleveland that's sure Cleveland is the laughing stock of the NFL I want disagreement that that's two wins every year it is from Baltimore it is for Cincinnati Cleveland Sox. But we also have a ravens team that just won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago that is competing year in and year round the NFL Harbaugh considered one arm off coach consider one mini best coaches in the league in save what you want about Cincinnati and their struggles in the playoffs. Cincinnati is a great regular season team that wins 101112 games basically every year. And tell this year and Marvin Lewis is the second longest tenured coach in league considered throwing the playoffs on the next one of the great coaches you the second. The high Belichick he's only Celtic Ellen Tressel are sold out. Does say that he plays a weak division needs to be dominating every year like Colin made an argument DNA Brady dominates his division. Was the last time there was a great quarterback to go in summary that division when was the last time the jets the dolphins. Bills in the bills had a dominant football team that won a Super Bowl like the Baltimore rate the bill's never the jets. I guess and dryer is run the gas engineer window and in the dolphins they went out wildcat they snapped quarterback exactly and go luck Cadillac Williams there are no. Ben Roethlisberger in the Steelers not the vision I have a feeling they would Don not taking anything away from Tom Brady where he talked about him but. I think he would dominated division that's something I have noticed the division thing and right. I get it like Big Ben is one of the greats and lay beyond those arguably the best back and say oh well. Antonio Brown wide receiver. Your right leg. If if if you're gonna bash Tomlin or say he's not great and he's a quote unquote nice coach whatever that means he says I don't know what he does that most people so pitchers nobody says that about John Harbaugh. Every it's an Harbaugh he has the last name Harbaugh so it's an automatic anyone assume brilliance is brother it's an automatic for everybody great coach. Great coach OK what division Z and all the AFC north Marvin Lewis makes Lamar loosely want to say all the they finally aired on the down end of their run the that's great local Marvin Lewis did it Cincinnati. Marvin Lewis is a GM good football coach I would love my team to have Marvin Lewis is their head coach. So what division as Ian. AFC north and hey I guess just proved your point about we look at new C east. Maybe you should win every year who knows so when you have a team win a super like the reason it's impossible to dominate like that and have that kind of tell because that's a damn good run organization. And then the dangles have some years where there are emerging in their 1112. Win team. Hard to go against that it's not just that you're not good enough it means the other team's pretty damn good themselves time hour after recent thoughts on this at 55305 Kazaa or come and and Terry Bradshaw says that as I guess I don't think it was very complementary and all some people said he was he just said he wasn't a great coach he said quote. I don't know what he does. That to me is rather disrespectful or some thoughts also PJ fleck is throwing his votes in Minnesota and now we can let the comparison game. Began crash Imus next on tending to the fan. Pressure is on. 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To PJ flack who was hired today to be the next head coach at the university. Minnesota. A couple of quick ones here I think someone is a good coach not a great coach the only knock on wood stays in the top three quarterback in league for the last ten years a great coach. Would have at least gotten to Marines. Not just the one but Tomlin is a solid good little calm which at some people investing OK still OK who's a great coach and if we're going off that just like. Play against that text whose great tennis is Belichick just Belichick is you couldn't be if you wanna but he Carol that that's finally as Caroline has wondering my alma has one rainy Reid doesn't hammering an idea as Draco doesn't nattering. Eleven glossy putting that David if it's all about ratings and who Welles is a Graco animal to tutoring thing is tough with the coach argument because outside of Belichick you just spew don't have it. Now doesn't exist not part John Harbaugh Scott. 111 Maya he's been one he's 11 yeah menu and AFC title game got close to pay lots two years ago loss came out there don't fourteen at different times and won that game yeah. So and looked in its fight it just it's that's the funny one to me. John Harbaugh. Nobody talks about nobody questions he is. Like almost. Universally considered a good to great coach Tomlin is like we have widget steeler fan sixteen Tom Jones a bomb get rid of him. Well the funny thing about John Harbaugh is it was his coordinators. Backed off all the hi Brian Billick first. No Brando Brazil was the co it was an analyst Anchorage a while back but I they've RX Blanton. And answers. We IE in luggage yeah I it. Somebody said that the shooters a zippy monies eases to have these facilities in Texas there's the argument people make is that he's good or better than big collar Bill Powers into the tower had horrible quarterbacks one just as many games the second he got big band he won a Super Bowl Tommy Tomlin barely won the division. Half the time. We'll drop this and be fair to pretend this is almost like an argument for tower. Big Ben was not good in the post season his rookie year and I think he has the second worst. Stats. Or he may have the worst stats other quarterback in the super bull guys stay at the numbers but I'm against Seattle works off with 720 million interception or something and look it if you wanna compared to look how that's fine agree that that's a fun debate to have I'm not. Bill power was a great head coach for a long time there's a reason every time and a job opens in the NFL bill caller's name gets mentioned he's happy doing media stuff but there's a reason people. Clamor to have him back and all that the division things Islamic know who dominates or division in the NFL. New England knowing went outside and England who dominates or division Seattle as a what are they well last year Arizona won the division last year who else is dominated in cowboys haven't dominated their division colts for awhile did with Peyton Manning but who was in their vision looked into an -- starting who's in their division yet Chinese didn't east Jackson Tennessee Tennessee GAAP to terrible division of Big Ben was in that division if my problem was in that division I he would dominate I would base and let this is not a good. Sample size and it never is based on text and that's that's I'm just going off what I'm seeing right now. There's only one great coach in the NFL. Based on what people are taxing it yet it is somebody takes any reason not a great coach. If you can do that in Philly in Kansas City that and put that team with Alex Smith as your quarterback. Before that it was it was McNabb and in. Why I'm after he went to the eighth seed in a CJ did you deal with AJ Feeley is a starter if you can do that. To me you are great coach now you may not have a title and I think Guinea reads terrible clock management I bashed him before on the show about that yes he's still a great coach no coach is perfect I you don't need to have multiple rings from media consider you a great football coach Bill Belichick was a genius for the last Super Bowl when they got is Malcolm Butler does not pay attention to what he learned all week and has a mental lapse yeah he's like does an idiot because he allowed the clock to dwindle down to twenty seconds without calling a timeout. Daring Seattle to just go and beat him wrapped. That that's exactly what you don't oh well I'm not written how much is that he's not calling timeout hell's he Dillon of the one yard line no Malcolm Butler still made a place so you still have to say Belichick has four rings so yeah. It's so subjective and how we just have these opinions of whose great good except righteous if I was doing Tom and I would say there's only three great. And for me in next year is really good and Tomlin for me is in that category. Yeah it just it is it is so hard to win at that level and how long term consistency to do it year in your I don't care who your quarterback is a detect the dollar right now he's got to enjoy locked in the guys somehow continues to keep his job. He not income not a good coach Wright I just think. They you can look it it is so hard did to dominate in and we always look at New England is an example like that that's did. The bar that you have to live up to if you're a great coach or your great quarterback and nobody's gonna live up to the Tom Brady Barr nobody's gonna live up to the Belichick barge is not gonna happen. It's like almost when you debate this great quarterbacks great coaches in the league right now you have to exclude them from the conversation because of you gonna say Belichick's great. The nobody else can be great and and I think that's right come down on Tomlin that. To see a guy who's been a head coach since 2007 sure he inherited some things every coach needs needs help to win. What's bella tech without Brady would have Brady distracted in the fifth round he was sub 500 exactly and in New England before Brady everybody needs help to win in if you wanna tell me that that go being a head coach is 2007 and not having a single season with a losing record. Isn't being a great coach in this league it is something that I can't wholeheartedly agree I get a couple 500 years to wait wait when he heard seen and in the 19 and seven year at in twenty in 200911. Last one and I do wanna bring up Monica people seized these 1035703. Deaths 644 winning his worst seasons are too late and eight years and people will point to the post season failures. And that is sure I mean that's some recently they haven't had any success as you can't Corley what he does snub but that sales and I think when you look at the Denver game they'd they play without one of their best defenders and Ryan Clark Tebow will be a Manson and him you know I miss Tim Tebow winning negated that. But the other ones and Jimmy you look at last year they didn't have lay beyond bell or DeAngelo Williams is still beat Cincinnati and they damn near beat Denver in the divisional round do we forget that game was 2316. They ran it until the fourth quarter they almost knocked off the Broncos are media unless you shadow game that I I'm not I'm not gonna write a strange that they should listed at one. Denver won Super Bowl last year on site him up our ultimate I don't I threw that one out not talking last year they like twice 360 did that almost battle grant that nobody defends that the year before that in LA beyond belly either and they lost Baltimore the first round Baltimore went on to damn near knock off New England who won a Super Bowl in the AFC title game sell. Yet they haven't and it's been a success as of late they get healthy this year let's see what run they go on that's the tough part some guys get the benefit of the doubt others don't Marty loosening and since he's yet again read and am album and the year before that he'd never AJ green. Big press ever had to back French tennis always now 95 months so why would you ever pay more for a gym membership ally Allen got mail fired up it just did. And just had we wing talk PG reflect their laughter rumble in the final hour maybe we'll do adhere to start the last hour. 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