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Thanks for listening to the prime time with Isaak NC podcast brought to you on the stand by your local less Schwab tire sinner. Doing the right thing since 1952. Right not welcome prime time where advising consumers what is the term appear whenever momentum and unbiased. Just short of the tournament on compromise sports stuck without booze sugar coat oh yeah I think yeah. He links and everyone's life in war things thanks Isaac dropping Jason's a candidate can't show and ninety do my job. The best in sports coverage. This is prime time revising consumed on 1080. Must be a two day you must be a Tuesday must be excused our little bit very Michael. Because I feel like that is your intro. And just because it's the one that doesn't mean you can't do better every day assists for ideas and really thought I had like an intro. You know I remember in the first days of the hot corner I was like this and that come up with some yearly don't it'll sound cheesy. Yes I just started saying it must be a Wednesday exit only day we are on yeah I was meant it was natural it wasn't like you forced it. It was natural and now now look it's gonna be your thing go. Laura must be Tuesday it is what you you know I'd like yesterday went so well that which is completely shift gears and talk liked. Clay Buchholz for the next trio you wanted to suitable baseball show until seven Elena belonged yet we do baseball club our how'd that go. Are you would go so badly. But the protesters were so are protesting turn into writers and come down to the station and try to take a soft here that would be pretty cool committed to every radio at that point is titled a breed the pitchforks but. No that would. Hello doctor while the club the sacred don't you dare touch can you imagine we're just stuck in here and you can hear the glass behind us just breaking over the microphones and we may flinch we hate baseball Perez dye took effect at. Since coming over to my commute you're annoyed. Just trying to talk about the trade that happened today that. You know aggressive OLO signed with the Hindus minor league deal. Oh man I'm glad only we care about that nobody even we don't really care though that none at all against him doesn't really care about not. In the slightest not in the slightest man I am exhausted today I woke up early. Went to the brewery to lower what those guys now I'm here doing this. And I'm doing just came in the morning tomorrow tomorrow nice deaths a year poem all sorts of double triple shifts lord have mercy almost sold. In the restaurant business called the open. Were you close the night before an open the next day and that's really interest income blew open coping yeah I had to do that because my new job. I'm lower on the totem pole so we had our company's staff party on Saturday. So who closed on Saturday disguise him who open Sunday after the party this guy. It they're always really fun to you because you show tour can you look around you like guys are you don't there is like shut up don't talk to me. I'm fine I'm just I'm opening employ opening right now but it's okay. The one guy logs and over the long guy walks in who you know drink way too much last night you like how you doing today I'm doing great moment for from beer already this morning if you're gonna keep this train ride back. As wondered about working at places that word. Based around alcohol mom whether it's a brewery or distillery rent whatever and a tap house has multiple peers. Is it okay just kind of lagged. Drink quite a work. Well no the lately just a little bit and know the liquor control board frowns upon that heavily but I will tell you know I've ever worked in the service and yet I have no idea but I will. You as far as restaurants go you don't restaurant employees tend to be big drinkers big part years themselves. But there Maurer. I don't know I wanna say less refined this is just like let's go out drink 35 whiskey cokes walk on it was you 00 I don't care whatever is cheap. To where I feel like now that have been working in a brewery. Sure not everybody just drinks beer everybody drinks other stuff but now it's kind of like. We drink nice things. As those sickened some nice burn yeah that will not just that but I mean when you go out you're like oh I feel like a little whiskey you're not doing you know old crow on the rocks. You didn't something a little class here because that's been like that though I mean yeah and I don't wanna go I mean I'll have cheap stuff that's a that's why can afford but. If I can afford more rocket that stuff in it better for him and I think that I think would be year. It's also because Beers so huge in this community and so. Diverse and eclectic and there's all these different guys that are starting up and all these guys that have established forever. They you have to constantly know what's going on it's not like competitive interest you know you work for a person a he's no person b.s doing C make sure you keep up that note I know it's it's about who's doing good stuff. Who's not doing good stuff and what kind of ideas you can base some other things it's actually very. Social supportive community it's not like us against you I did know or you're against us. I mean how many. Combination Beers DC were multiple Peru's are working together and creating a beer yet all the time and the collaborations are huge asset in a Dutch is kind of as someone who knows nothing about it outside of I like beer you know like Portland or is it tasted. That you just seeing that kind of makes you okay laurel here's comical. Sally it's a giant competition and you know the biggest one out there isn't trying to squash all the little guys and take it all for themselves. Like you know other places do. Right right well and then what likely to working. When you work senior. Interacting with guests especially people that travel and people travel to Portland drink beer all the time. I like that's like the idea of their vacation yet yet all the time we give people that come in peril I go I'm from Denver I'm from North Carolina I'm from Louisiana. And we decided to come to Portland for five days easy is it really beard. We're like oh. Rich and you're in here at our place awesome and so the reason it's also good to do that is to is only come in they're like hey we really liked your brewery Marie eighth. Where else is good beard. An ominous say. Hey I really liked the guys that great notion I think they make really good beer that's you know just on Alberto or I like upright they make really good beer too. And then they go there and a bartender and upright looks at June is like. Oh yes you came from their oh that's great and then the next person that comes and says hey where's another place to go they're gonna recommend your spot and another spot and it's just all come up. Hello friends and family that is good that's cool it's cool and that's one of the best parts of a living here. Especially when I first moved here I never understood the beer scene I did not mean percent saw a man I've I've been I've been working hard in it. Around it for many years and it's still a lot always understand I just didn't understand it because. Where I'm from. All are slowly changing from New Jersey when you say hey. What's the nicest beer you have. The answer you get is blue moon. That's the answer you get there are no where there were no craft breweries began their starting to pop up out there right there was none psych him out here and I'm what I knew there was good beer. I mean. What Lionel I think a blue moon with an orange slice and it has to be here compete with a lot of Lionel and then I. All of a sudden he's like you you final spot the liken it to go there all the time as you like him no wait a minute while IQ of one place. I wanna do all these things which is why I'm doing Milbrett toward payment I've been doing the last half year or so. Is actually excellent follow Mike on Twitter my clinched weighs seven and he'll they eat him and his wife usually hit a robbery once a week. Probably right it's been a little more spread out recently but we go a couple of times. I think once every two retreats to go to a new one thing you judge not just beer but food environment atmosphere just. I've a loose star rating if you well and I'm. Accumulating a list of our ratings and at the end when we're done with although we're going to you make it a little spreadsheet in order avoid ratings and then I'll post a Twitter to. So funny story here there's one of the one of the I was flying to the East Coast and I had a layover in Atlanta at the Atlanta M airport which in my eight. Travel days is the worst airport in the history of Inca. Just Smyth. In terms of just being about airport just isn't it did it's just everything it's too big is too many people and it's just not set up Greg Norman old Gloria and Africa. I have been LaGuardia is the worst airport in America. All right. And then followed by Newark and then followed by Jeff Kent had all been in New York airports or her if I bump into Atlanta got a cut. So I'm in Atlanta and the biggest marine Atlanta elected to shoots of Atlanta's so to say. Is sweet water I believe is what it's called and they had attacked and I was. On my phone trying to figure out what are the best things to do at the Atlanta airport layover. And it was like go check out Sweetwater drink their Beers that was underway because there's nothing to do exactly and I was like OK so go drink some beer. And I'm looking on the map that shows which concourse to go to and I get there you know I'm not an idiot I'm pretty direction only savvy and can find things fairly easily. And I did I just can't see it so finally I seen employee working in an answer as an excuse me. Geno or I can find sweet water it's it's it's bribery tap house. Kind of kind of thing and she goes oh yes just like 23 windows up the road but it's like something move now. I was like oh OK and I walk up and it's 35 different blue moons untapped. And I just went. And or. Pretty well crushing welcome to anywhere else above the north play best as pretty crushing him died as Denver San Diego yeah yeah. So home bottles and now vice. That's I think registering Flickr my wife went to Austin the visitor her dad like a week ago or something. And they went to this place amid blond beard on and Austin too they went to this is your place. And the whole light table next are like twenty people at like fifty Beers on tap. There were drinking will start if Kay and hello America couldn't pick. As she severed the pictures you like look at this what you're disbelief. To them not drinking anything but they're what they know out of a can. Mail was speaking of drinking premier speak huge arguing like to thank one of our. With the kind of stuff you like so happy holidays thank you to you my friend if there's anything I can do personally for you just give a Holler a locally to Oakley well. Cool show coming up today 515 Trent Dilfer as we always do on Tuesdays Scott somehow takes on concussions. Christian McCaffery that was good. Are we get yet to grant interviews summation tournament to listen. Really interest and stuff yeah Mike and I actually are going to talk a little baseball today as we see some guys that seemed to be our castle hall of fame votes seemed to be gaining some speeds will touch on Maggie can also interact with us on Twitter. Mike so Mike Lynch 27 I'm at PD 085 there's also at an eighty the fan you can also interact with us on the fan techs are up 553 of five. The lets you take with us throughout the entire show if you have any questions comments and our concerns sent him that way and if they get enough we read them on the air harass us. We love it. But coming up next our poll question has the blazers with Sacramento and the rest of the year on the line. It's 311 and this is prime time with errors and lynch. Brian time with Isaac and sue Gunter and maybe the fans. Prince is sixteen we're just talking about some beer there. Come across on the fan takes are my wife and I travel for beer and sports and always post up at the barn as bartenders or suggestions best plan that's the way to travel. So I did it when I went to Cleveland. And you found some talk about gray beard but really I've found it excellent beer I was very very happy. Then another one western Michigan is another beer and Yvonne a funny excuse go to Grand Rapids you'll be disappointed. Obama unfamiliar with. Upper hand I believe that's in Michigan they believe that's in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Some of the midwest of bells that's some good stuff as well don't this is my favorite one though went to San Diego for a honeymoon. As some bars about beer on tap on the ass warrior from told them Portland in the ages apologized and said they had nothing good for us that's where can I feel like San Diego has a couple dead craft Beers Southern California has a ton of what is donut has a ton agree breweries you know ballas pointer mama all those kind of cats that are down there and it's funny because it's. It's funny because they must have just gone to a place that just didn't know anything about beer well that I love they said you're from Portland sorry we're not gonna have me in part it Gerry moan don't share expertise and I'd love apologizing. Home I'm so sorry you were at liquor instead. You got a bat we got lots of liquor. All right time for the wood Brothers poll question of the day brought to you by steel bridge Porter will go blazers on this bad boy. The blazers are thirteen and sixteen with six games left in ways sixteen what keeps your playoff hopes alive yet for options. If they're over 500 on January 1. If they could finally play some. Too soon talk to me in February or have lost hope already in him drinking at dieters testament. Not the Dieter part did you note I mean yeah. That's an interesting one because the games they have left are. Not pretty. They've got six games left when he says to remember against San Antonio. Two of them are against Sacramento. And they've got one game against Toronto in there and one game against. Dallas so most of those are home. Dallas San Antonio Toronto Sacramento's at home they can go three and three in the Sacramento on the San Antonio on the road. Yup they could go three and three I don't like the San Antonio isn't Toronto game though now. I don't like that at all I if they go three and three I would imagine Sacramento Dallas Sacramento wins that's right they do Santonio is the knot winds. So three and three were put them at sixteen in nineteen. At the end of the year. How does that make you feel sixteen in nineteen you know I think that's the same as thirteen and sixteen. He's had illegal I think I'd feel the same way I feel right now that I which is not so hot so you're not pick him 323 win them. Right what Harvard is three to four wins well what we change today your options aren't they're over 500 on January 1. The second is if they could finally colleagues and be the third is too soon talked to me in February. And four is our last hope already arms somewhere in between the third and fourth chose to area Joyce com is that they believe there's a lot of season left and a and an I think with the lofty expectations. And it. The surprise the team was last year. All sports markets is not a Portland thing it's all teams that are like this you just get hyper critical when things don't start off the way you profit. I'm somewhere in between options to him three if they can finally play some defense meant to see and talk to me in February. There's a river yesterday asset I am still trying to be a little patient because it's not yet the time when teams normally turn it on certain. Some somewhere between now but if they complete defense. For more than one game at a time and then lose it completely and make it make it show. If they can be figured out a way to kind of player that extra energy and at least put the effort forward because let's be honest there's not a good defensive team some there are going to be good defensive team you've got two guards who were. Not good defenders and you no matter what they're going to do. They're not going to be good defenders there might play with more a passion which would make them. Better. The better than awful is not great it's so bad so you still got bad guys there. The defense and in the paint is bad because Mason formally is not a guy you can really be the shop blocking presence in there. He doesn't do a great job bobbing up against really good powerful presence is in the paint so in general thought gonna be great. But if they can at least to show you that they're willing to put that are for and every single game. And economists all these guys on rotations all the time and not going to be data off of screens the body may gives him more hope. I'm not thinking that's gonna happen but if they can show that to me. You know I'd. The defense sing and we beat the dead horse on this defense thing but it's because for just reasons I think. A big thing I wanna see is even if they do end up losing these games. Is and not just the defense night in night out but I want to see the defense on a back to back and we talked back to back games last night a little bit about how sometimes when they play. A tough team. In the first night of back to back and they may be lose you know kind of a close game like that clipper game a week ago or so how long though that was. The next night they just come out so flat. And I just don't know how to get these guys to take that quality game that they played the night before against equality. Opponent and transfer that into the next game and not just looks so dead. I wanna see more defense on the back to back games because that's that effort that's gonna come through. Even if you lose that's gonna show me that there's still giving effort because it's the back to back games they kill me as I see teenager shows up and says. We're a close game with clippers last night and we lost so. Were any of blown up by Denver tonight. Yeah I guess I guess I kind of agree with that except for the fact that back to backs are brutal so. Efforts great. But just how much of that's gonna come across. When you're just exhausted and you just play along game a hard game against whatever team it is a media to go to quote hard yet. But emit any any game is it's going to be hard on you as a player because of four basketball game and Harvard and I would imagine so. It's tough to judge based truly on the back to backs to me at least but I agree with human factors as long as they're just going out there and trying. And it looks like they're playing better defense which they did for a little bit. Woman started on the road trip against. Wanna say it was Dallas and Memphis men and women games that they were playing with more energy this little while ago went okay. At least it looks like lethal sort of happening right now and at all they got shut off again it's gonna be the consistency. With the defense and it really bash is kind of what ask you to team completely. Consistency. Can they go out there and stop being the most up and down roller coaster team. That we've seen this season it's you know great usually against the thunder followed by that game against Denver that you're talking about I mean. That's that's not gonna get she went. There's something that just came across on the fan takes on a 553 of five from the 503 that I think kind of really sums up. The true answer this question is that I wanna see some heart. And I think if you look at any sport in any town. At any time of the season. You're OK if you're teens not very good as long as you can tell they're trying but he just don't have the players and you're just not good. Fans understand that but they still want to know that people are trying. And actually putting in the effort instead of just cashing a paycheck that we are all paying for them. Yep I think that's true if you look at a team. Like tonight's opponent Sacramento for example how many times in the last few years have you seen McCain's. Just float through games right they don't care. Even got to leave the mindset of that teamed up players like they had Rondo and Rudy Gay and DeMarcus Cousins guys soreness early trying hard every single game. And one of those guys doesn't come back when you do that yeah in other. I know is not in Sacramento anymore not that such a huge loss but I you know I kind of liked I thought you know three guys that nobody really wants. In gay cousins in and Rondo like this could work out all right and I was. Horribly wrong. But I'm I'm I'm Rondo apologists I don't know why but it just them. I don't know why they're well at triple doubles in the playoffs on the way to finals is is sexy and I like that. Like once once it was filthy could sure he had Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett Ray Allen but. That I was dribbled the ball the court he was on mr. green everywhere Ime Doc Rivers look like a genius well. OK but with Rondo aside that that team right now that's team that doesn't try. And that's a patent says a passionate fan base for those who don't mean Sacramento fans do care about the king's I mean they're only team. Protein similar to here if were not included the timbers is the only pro. Big four team which we need to start including her and I know you would say that but. You know that you give a passionate they mister c.'s Emily a wiry wiry caring about this team. They've the blazers are Mac category I think they care a lot more than the mid got players' minds that that are different than those players. And they're being led by the face of caring in this town right now in Damian Miller right I mean I don't think anybody really questions. His heart or his caring especially with how much gives back to the community and the leadership on the floor and all that stuff so there is some precedent. But it's got to stop being just talk. That's just that's what it is I mean what's it been all season after every bad loss. We know we played terrible defense were working on it in practice trust us you'll see it. That's what has been yeah and I got to the boiling point against the warriors this weekend were being alert explodes in the team apparently amino curses amount yell to them in contrast to get them. Fired up that way. Great we have to see it in this game now we are listening game yet but it is against the kings but maybe in the stretch like we talked on the poll question until the end of December. Maybe we need to see it for those games against teams like Toronto and San Antonio on the go out and actually say hey look. We're in it to win it we're not just folding because we keep we're given up the most points in the league M the defense is the worst in the league work still fighting for it. And that's what I mean. And and I want to see 23 weeks ago was after really brutal road trip. When the defense command the defense of questions first gonna candlelight. I wanna say we saw two games three games strong long but it looked like improve it was happening in the all the sudden just and it was gone and and I agree Amber's an idol I just I'm not I'm not an athlete so I don't wanna I don't criticize athletes you know I've. I've played bass while game since I was like if I don't know sophomore in high school. And I was picked last so I don't really want a national he's not quite sure but I just don't understand how you can have that potential build up like yeah we're showing signs of life this is come in this is common in the. And we are right that's what I don't understand here that's why I'm saying that inconsistency is maddening because last year. Once they got hot I Yasser once they figured out they were very consistent. Amendment they have the struggles in the last month of the season but they still played a certain way you can expect them to play a certain way. And maybe it comes back all the way to the to the meal O'Shea signing of Evan Turner and how old. He comes in and has a completely different style of offense and everybody else and they're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and build an offense around him when he comes onto the floor. We've seen to be a little better the last few weeks but maybe that just kind of mess of the chemistry of the team a little bit they're not free flowing the entire time and I'll play in the same offense the entire game. Maybe and we talked about this earlier in the season. All the guys got paid Allen Crabbe made his big money and Evan Turner made his big money and now they're not playing for anything however I contract they're gone on economic and seventy Milken. Yeah that's true especially guys like Allen Crabbe you would think. This is your year man time to step up like you got paid the money because we think he can do something so do something now you know and maybe me mentally tiger and Regis that's the state of the NBA game. I don't know maybe I don't know they're about to get paid even more. Once again the Widmer Brothers poll question of the day. Is that the blazers are thirteen and sixteen with six games left in when he sixteen what he should play a hopes alive option one of the over 500 on January 1. 2 if they can finally play some. Or I lost hope already couple teams bashed at each other last night no one looked. Like they play with a lot of heart the other kind of look like they fell over and I will recap Monday Night Football that's coming up next. But first here's Mike was sports and. It's 334. A lot of people reaching out about a missing wallet appreciate that. The audio. Then give them. In fact I forgot about it until people can remind you projects certificate. The minority here to move past it and now he's mad at except drive enough cash to last me seven to ten business days in my pockets and I really could get robbed. We put water level wallet and I don't have an idea or debit card Saudi go to the bank and pull out a much money ice I would survive loyal order a new car that takes them it's and business is just get. He did that much money in one day because you lost your wallet you lucky our mentality oss and Eric let me Johnson. Well last night on Monday Night Football we saw Panthers defeating the Redskins 2615. In not an awesome game to watch on an awesome game washing at all. Always expecting it to be an awesome game to watch may be I mean maybe I. The papers were in the Super Bowl last year and the Redskins or trying to make the playoffs you have rumpus. Had to bring Q but the Panthers are six and eight this year and the Redskins are well. The Redskins the I can't believe the Panthers are six and eight rent I thought they'd be like I know they've finished the season the way they look like four and twelve. That's true they are compounds just looked awful I don't understand them as the team at all the fact that. Two years ago. They finished the season blows like 781 olympiad that tied it up an inmate rolled the Super Bowl last year and it did the MVP in him nude man loses Super Bowl would have. Amazing year. And this year they're six and expecting another NFL as parity but after watching last year like. The Panthers had no kill. Benjamin Wright and you have running back injuries all year and you think coming into the season this year you get yeah some guys helped feed you Camden still murdered also ciller denounces based on the same minus Josh Norman and you get instead of dumpster packer yeah I mean it's two things I think wanted maybe Josh Norman really was that valuable. You know I am not a baby I'm not big on the apple may be so but the biggest thing is is that Cam Newton is trash. Well well you know what I mean can you not trash but he's not plays like trash he's not great this year he just won the MVP enemies it's eight. Camped out I'm sure their guys in the past that it won't MVPs that are trash up with Kim c'mon. Stop at Camden not trash okay he's not trash playing well this but it's 41 of 37 with 300 to touch says is not spectacular. Pretty good for him is he's been through that's what I am knee might think here you are trying to dummies not trash and I just gave you this 51 point two QBR and your likes. That's about how is Flynn. Book okay c'mon they want to give the pit there's some credit they want the game yesterday over team that's better ma'am. As trying to get into the playoffs let's give some credit but you're right Cam Newton has played like trash this year. I will stay injury I will say to be that game I even though at the end the first I believe it was 103 Carolinas South Carolina was up I still thought Washington was. Gonna come back and win. Only two and now we lost it when I was here so I watched Pryor what the first half until we left the studio but. I mean I got home and watched clicked and in the third quarter was just like I can't use language through metal detector soft and I just can't do this anymore. Well there's nothing else on there's always something honest it's called on demand a Netflix you can find anything I suppose. But it's like I only want sports com I don't I mean it's the truth I don't watch a whole lot outside a sports and it wasn't very good game normally am remembering. Now because you don't let their content if that's all right. Bit you know but on the other side of it week we shouldn't just. And Carol you right did win that game I think the real story is how bad Washington may potentially always been. Because that's the question I'm I'm trying to rack my brain around is this team. Good that I had a bad game. Or they just not very good. I think very team that is. Very very half pitch I know that's kind of phone in the middle of sitting on the fence but. I never really thought they were great. And I never really thought they were. A team that would threaten in the playoffs that they made him but I mean you never know it's Kirk cousins and he he can play well here in there and give you some of the big games but then again I say that it's Kirk cousins. He's not a great quarterback he's fine he serviceable. In a league right now that has a lot of bad quarterbacks he's perfectly fine to be your starter. And you know that's why I think they're gonna consider giving him an extension he wants memories playing with a franchise tag. Like seventeen and a half mil yeah on the French has to India oh semi is fine but another rescue is our create do you like anybody on their team. Oh that stands out here and him you know you're OR EF that's the guy does Santana Moss still play for them now. There's one player. It's like Sean Taylor it's torn yet to put our IP if it is Jordan reed to tight end you really get that island fight him beyond that. If Kirk cousins and a bunch of okay running backs in the bunch of okay wide receivers against Desean Jackson's OK you wanna give him some love. Even great catch last night you didn't mean excellent jets last night. I thought it was funny Grunow one point was talking up here are so now he's like the hardest worker on the team he runs great routes and he studies are they are those like. Do you think maybe pick that up and Indy. But maybe probably don't think Kirk cousins is making him first guy in last guy out. But I think that do you number eighteen in Indy might add something to do that I forgot he played. Nineteen yeah that's why I got that story got the big money NN Washington and he became freeagent go into the Redskins and they were like oh yeah you're great. It's like wait we saw your Reggie Wayne my dad and Marvin Harrison my dad. Public still had a good game let's say. Sadly milk I was down by a little bit. I got a close. They keep one up like fifteen points and Kirk cousins and I was plane had him at like nine but I still lost like four points so I made it close but there. Well. I like this on the fan Tex went after him at 55305. RG three was a rookie of the year and he sucks. And his son NDP led man has got to pour it that is fair that's a fair point that is a fair play and got a point. But I feel like rookie of the year is different than the best player in the NFL. MVP we'll never know. Oh spot throw that out there to be people better of American. Heavy Steve have you seen DO playoff scenario for the Carolina Panthers essentially everyone that's good has to lose and everyone that sucks has to win. And they didn't I didn't guerrillas they're sort of chance for a playoff in 06 and eight 'cause they be a native they went out. Now. You have 500 team on dormant in the playoffs are yes and it's funny almost a pair district of Clausen and I mean the soccer happen but if this crazy situation happened. I wouldn't rule out for winning gamer to know. Know they've got the talent and if Luke she quickly can play that defense is still nasty receptors Davis yet necessary is not masked in the secondary is pretty bad. But they've got great fronts and yet who's the rule would you how you say the d.s last name start that would you don't look to allay reload to really low to lay the Arizona do you tolerate yes I remember him at Utah he was very good. But you remember I wanna say like. I don't know maybe 45 weeks ago were we not saying the NFC east was. Stacked everywhere. And I mean it's still if you look at the rest of the NFC you could still argue that it stacked. And I would Eagles have fallen off but. Still three teams vying for playoff spot math and I would say a month and a half ago we almost wrote in stone that it was going to be three teams right. It would be all three of them all I guess we know between the Eagles and and the ready as the Redskins and giants even about what yet but we thought one of them organ of fall off and now it's totally giants cowboys yep and people really like insurance. I know they've been playing really well the defense this spent like 200 million dollars on this offseason is actually playing well now to. Getting Olivier Vernon and George take a sudden they'll not. That's paid some dividends form that's for sure but I think the Redskins ran into the problem that. The Packers figured it out. The lines keep finding ways to win them the vikings are dead the blocks keep winning games and the falcons have not completely. Fallen asleep as they tend to do some this is. The really strange here in the NFL a feel like in the sense that I just don't know. Who I think is going to be good I think it's easy to say the patriots the cowboys in the Seahawks. And beyond that kind of sit mayor Dolan. All of these teams could pose a threat to anybody all the ones were in the running in uneven including like the raiders and chiefs who have looked great but still have some flaws. Any of these teams the you mentioned the Packers could certainly come back in and get into the playoffs and be a real threat. The vikings would their defense to be a real threat if they somehow figure out how to run the football mean. There's a lot of AP coming back in should you mean they're often the ones about don't think that really matters but. That is such it's such an interesting year for the NFL that we've kind of lost over this year is college football's been happening in the docs firing mark Belfort should all the stuff. Another and actually paying more attention to it and we're getting down to the nitty gritty it's there's all these teams are watching gone all your good. You're fine announced in the Gumbel to make the playoffs. Are they actually good enough to write make a new bit of a threat to themselves. With you I've no idea to make of the season the only thing that you know. And this somebody up there censure on his and it's quite controversial is I think the Cleveland Browns would be deceived Cisco 49ers. Yes and he thinks I've been sent to I think they're better yet I think I mean good niners. Maybe the rams don't profound community organizers of the worst team in a foreign I think so too so. Brown's starts schedule and the niners and may be himself go to the beats these. I hope the browns get one win then goes on. All right well the browns I don't think they're fired a coach but bunch other people might be fired coach in the carousel has already begun and it's probably gonna speed up. Will do that will do that Nexus Prime time with errors and lynch on an eighty the fan. We're like chicken soup got obscenity though. Street 49 your prime time I've match cares joining Mike Lynch as the boys are off for the holidays. Called the bullpen and I come around in the one more show after today together on the news today you know I like doing shows do you like that I'm glad I'll enjoy it shouldn't I enjoyed him do de. Steen Tim in the morning with Luke Anderson and they believe in Joseph Fisher tomorrow he has so we'll be reunited with my boy Joseph. Lou can I go way back of those days so that'll be fun and we were just talking about. How uncertain the NFL playoff picture looks but the follow me on this Mike I'm looking at this coming. Scheduled this coming weekend schedule of NFL games. And there's some good ones they'll talk about that will prod you on Thursday we might truly know who the worst teams are after next week. This is some of these matchups are current Cincinnati Houston. Parker. San Francisco at LA. But. Maybe we will get the first win at home against. The listless chargers. There was another one too I mean and then just just real bad games UN listless chargers late New York. The jets at the patriots rose. Redskins at Chicago rose. It's not that pretty it's not pretty man I like look I know we've seen this all season melt right relatives have been if you because there's a lot of bad right I know Houston is tied for first in their division but nobody thinks thirty Goodell that nobody thinks thirty good I don't know how they're tied because her image yourself we asked just awful and they're complacency who has just been a dumpster fire this year as Welsh. Does not make much sense to me I guess south at a losing agent agreement there weren't very good even before a degree got hurt a team was so get the last few years and I don't have it was losing the first round of the playoffs but. And angles for good in any doll looked like he was getting to be legit quarterback Tim moved. Now they're on her kid and I don't understand no no lead defense is and as scary as it used to be either no it's not you know I feel like they've built that defense to be like. Like a Pittsburgh Baltimore defense arrival in that division and just an inch. Yeah I mean if that's suspensions and injure perfect is jerk yeah everybody knows that I'm in every team in that division has jerk defenders he did economy valid to your point as opposed to match up with the Steelers amend the ravens you want you want those guys but. Yes just it's been weird but the whole season's been strange you know and very pour play. Even up until last week were expecting happened this season I probably will pick up oh you better go down all the better but it's a lot of ugly football there gamble. Mimi think of this is it being this season looking you know week sixteen seen Tennessee yet Jacksonville you're going to hate that can be for the division. And it might still be for the division but just not Jacksonville. We are so misled us so misled both vague here and their coach Bradley's done that job sucks nobody wants it. It commissioner Jose Mourinho. Punitive there are merely a reference to an editor there they are moving the London was there but has. But. I mean we kind of think about. This chairs so that started and I think it might be a big one this year. Actually think there might be a lot of turnover in the NFL where are you know the jags are out the rams need a head coach early start about the rams looking at. John rooted in the jags look in a jab at Tom Coughlin but I think the buffalo job could open. I think the San Diego job is gonna open when they moved to Los Angeles because. They're gonna want some sexy hire and McCoy is not their guy you know ensure you think we didn't even though the players really like McCoy I think this could be the last state for Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati. And some hard made these are like the saints if they wanna trade Sean Payton ordered just get rid of him the niners the colts the jets. People letter just. Not living up to those expert here. Spanning the jets are fine at least for now because Tom Bowles did have a good Europe and last year and is basically bring you coach cheers and I'd like to say that I think the jets are the sort of the niners are fine. Because in one year and mat team is so bad that I've there's nothing mission Kelly could have done them to make that team better but I feel like we've seen guys get fired for less than of course but I think. I think to date no. That it's bad team it's not like Chip Kelly isn't doing a good job coaching although that may also be the case but the team is just so bad but it doesn't really matter. Meant the colts. I don't know the coastal seem to be. Playing fine and often in the bad division to be to keep up the dollar around so I I think I think he's fine to rewrite. I mean Marvin Lewis might be done because of how bad the season went shows just how important hue Jackson was maybe that's the reason why they're bad. Remember he was their offense of coordinator who were making the browns job and he was. Really do it. With Dalton and with full Bernard and held a running backs there so maybe that's the reason why I'm approve him a Marvin Lewis is not the reason why they've been good the last few years. And Mike Zimmer running that defense is now Minnesota troop complete coordinator shift to may have lost me at the edge they've had all that was a couple years ago and now. I've McCoy being fired makes sense to me and then of course Rex Ryan the rumors are to bear that is going to be out of buffalo. Which is also not a very desirable job I would think similar to Jacksonville better than Jacksonville dissimilar because just. Coaches go there to die lately. Nobody seems stick around that it got issues with the ownership calving front or being from a with the coaches. Some pore draft picks recently so that's another jobless not exactly one the courses are gonna want. Well I think what's so inching about this carousel. And end this is the question Alaska right before we go to break is. If say a bunch of these opens and two more open right now say another three go down so that's five total and an outside chance of six. Who. Are these teams. Going to hire and that's what I ask you to respond on the fan takes went up 55305. Will get to that in a minute this is prime time on an eighty the fan.