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Dirt & Sprague, Thursday 3-3-16 Hour 1

Mar 3, 2016|

The guys are nervous about the new Ghostbusters movie, not concerned about the Blazers loss in Boston, and curious if Joe Flacco is worthy of his new contract.

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Everybody it's dirty here and I would like to personally thank you for listening to the dirt and Sprague podcast robbed you on the stand by your local less Schwab tire senator doing the right things since 1952. Not count on me but talk about kids on the edge this is durden spray and it. Served up by Buffalo Wild Wings what you just said. Is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having loads of dirt and spray and served up by buffalo wild win. So is there anything. Yeah but it's a Louis blues on Jay Nady both. Good afternoon everybody out there it is twelve old soon. During this break served up five Buffalo Wild Wings wings and beer sports. We are stuck on a yet there's some big sports news that came out this morning. He gets breaking news we certainly shows some breaking news the office was abuzz in their Alia was. There's no breaking. The game play anyway I still like here in the sound nice it's on. Breaking news on is did the office was a buzz in and over the sport of ghost catching yes this morning. Lot of a lot of hot takes out there in the office place on ghost busters yes so. A lot of people in the office were kind of circled around we had some people come over or cubicle area are our show when it was a little delayed today because it is so the ghost busters reboot. The released the trailer today he had. And now we all watched it it was a big group thing like everybody wanted to see what's the new ghostbusters going to be about. And in the business of ghost catching which is not an easy sports not if you may remember similar hall of famers Bill Murray. Yeah Bill Murray is is for sure first class all fan Ernie Hudson you know a lot of people are hesitant but they were deal with racially she's back then right right eventually got any deserved it. Do enact Troy Eric fantastic what he'd first ballot first ballot Dan adequate yet Sam who. But this new ghostbusters movie and Brian France led to a lot of different conversations today well look we've known that there reboot is is that made that we've it's been in the news for awhile now but this is the first chance we've got to set our eyes on me be potentially what the movie might actually look like an obvious get a start off with a whole hearted I am terrified. That this movie is not going to be any. I'm terrified I really am I'm scared and I think there's a lot of people that share my same opinion on this so if you've been under rocking you Neiman know we were making news ghostbusters when we just kind of billion real quake and now. Now what you missed it's an all female cast yes all females. Melissa McCarthy. Kristen wing. Leslie Jones. And Kate MacKinnon all funny people. All funny to me I love all of them is actresses and comedians and according to the trailer they released. It's not an add on to the previous two it's a complete reboot my gas storyline according to the trailer he never exist like this is the first. Quote unquote ghost busters but they're using with all female. Well and does because they're taught in this in this did really engulf the entire office and dusty had a good thing and that thought where when you watch the trailer DMC to go watch it it's all over the years weed out during the brilliant actor who's. Ray gets her show page is ball flight I like it's a little treated and he brought to the point where a lot of the jokes in the trailer. Are the same jokes from the original ghost buster. Goes cluster of the premises the same the premise is is is exactly the cast is the same it's three people three white people. Win a black person eventually jumping yens a mix yes and she brings are crazy cousins call our payload is my cousin Scott climbers involved in. Yet essentially the exact same store I just reboots are so difficult to do that there's not many that that stand out to people that are successful and it's not an all female thing is none of that is just this is one of the all time classic comedy movies and it's just not gonna be easy to do and I the feeling there's a lot of folks. We're gonna walk away disappointed wanted to be open minded about it I do I do you enjoy all four of those ladies are unsafe at our affiliate really like Leslie Jones on as an out you watch us announced Larry is she has been fantastic like Melissa McCarthy increasingly can be pretty funny. I don't know much about Kate MacKinnon but I like them so many open minded to a I will see the disappointment disappointment for me. Is that they're doing a reboot and not media player on. Like maybe Dan accurate character having a daughter and this is a group it just even rather have that like a follow up story absolutely bill Murray's. You know bastard child and I looked at the -- TB and Bill Murray and Sigourney Weaver are listed as cast they have to be in the movie you can't reboot ghost busters for about this day at a halfway better being -- two wolf you're gonna rebooting them why do you have a minute is this is going to be a joke to the audience but it's not in a matter in the movie I just it -- get a rehab if you got happening ghost -- on a movie you can't make that without theory that's like when they try to do the dumb and dumber. Error or whatever was they had to completely different actors that were apparently did it was the same thing. The movie was often a dumb and dumber two was awful as well and they had the original actors and movie was correct that was one of the worst movies of all time. But if you get after they've money just got to have the familiar faces in it if I'm gonna go see something with the name ghost busters I wanna see Bill Murray. I wanna see Dan Akron kind of defeats the purpose and not have them in the movie if you just tuning in we were talking about the big sports news of dose of texting and with the hall of famers act right marine Hudson and even arraignments to RI impeding him right on the rebooting ghost busters with an all female cast in this drought is this me has created a lot of conversation in our office today of people that. Love that movie. And there either disappointed. By the trailer that was released today which will tweet at dirt and Sprague yes. War maybe there's some optimism out there in the hold out hope I looked at the original ghostbusters trailer and we watched the original as well very first ghostbusters trailer. It really doesn't show yet very many funny parts if if at all that's and that is very fair comes off in fact like. Our act Ray Emery trying to do was serious. Brian what's going on India is this like a science nerdy kind of movie ways or I'm well hold out hope that may be the real funny stuff is not listed in history and I would say this I thought the down endeavor to your trailer was pretty funny like there was some funny scenes and they're like all right this movie could be. Halfway decent and legal seeds terrible C can't judge completely off a movie trailer. And made either save and a lot of the good jokes for the actual movie which is something that I can respect. Is that happens far too often now are they the EC trailer and you see all the funny scenes are all the important scenes and that two minute trailer you go see the movie like our and I birdie kind of know what happens I saw the trailer. It's it's not coming to the mammoth HR to excite interest in one's reboots art for you. One reads thereof for twenty year younger version of do you aka AK today's kid but his ghost busters look there are these graphics. Things that we can talk about. But the movie itself I think it's still holds up for younger generation. Yeah I mean I'm sure it needs to be rebooting now if it does if David doesn't hold up and there's something wrong with the kid Hollywood goes through these phases of having I'm Selena story lines like I think the last couple removes that I can think of our harmony remade footloose. Which was a disaster Avery made footloose yes I got Imus that move and then I remember another one was a Karate Kid a few years Diaz with Wilson this kid write with we'll smitten Jack became my son on an airplane that movie sock them movie wasn't very good so I don't I don't like reboots I like the play on the story line like if you wanted to go in the future and just say hey Jackie Chan's the news. In our the new mentor than fine just do the plane on you know I mean yes Jake baker says other seed in a ghost busters on five dollar Tuesday the my expectations are very high. That's kind of how I feel I let it go see it there's no way you don't go see Izod dumb and dumber two and dieters I was that global sob gotta go see this movie in theaters. I decide I'm going in worrying about how about at that point natural conversation after you see this trailer for a lot of us was. What's the tax if you add cheese for cast members yet this was hotly debate so not you camp the originals you can't have the act rates the Marie's the Hudson is the rain is obviously. You can't have any of so you get the four guys together with current actor is you're just doing a new cast of four people can be men and women combined if you want. What are your four choices for new ghost buster this that we since this is the we discuss this for about 45 minutes and I lights head sales guy ranked goalie had a good fondness where you got to get people with good chemistry. In terms of guys that have worked together in a funny together and his idea was Will Ferrell is kind of the tent pole. John C. Reilly and Mark Wahlberg. As John C rally IBC Will Ferrell worked together and it's been funny Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg and work together and it's been funny so they have chemistry. Different kind of personalities different levels of comedy different styles of comedy. And I would be cool what those three guys and I think I thoroughly and honestly Chris Rock. You wouldn't be nervous about rock I wouldn't be terrorism ambler roles where he's he has he sets of everybody everybody has bad movies but that first manager adjust your mind connect characters Kevin Hart and I don't want Kevin Hart I don't look at and am now so I mean what other names are are jumping to the forefront of your mind other than Chris Rock. Well I mean I think you're going real traditional team you're thinking of three white guys and black guy. Yeah I mean you got to keep the same way resting had to get one of GB's move JB's move will be solved and I look GE's move it suggests not like Chris Rock as is suggesting Chris Rock was funny in top five. But one I like Zach I don't I don't know how I feel about Will Ferrell. As ghost buster. You don't know if you like welfare as a passer like Will Ferrell is one of the all star in ghost catchers in that sport in choosing edit the I wanna give a it was a cast of the Al horrible losses those three guys. No I don't want that Jane you like Jason Bateman Sudeikis without a single oral las and that's I won't focus. I wanna see Louie CK. In the rule. I think Louie CK can put some glasses on article that he can look Michael scientist and he's going to be a funny is kinda move it yeah. Idea I'd be all right Louis CKB brittle a lot of people are fired up about this ghost busters is I mean you're talking about a cult classic this is everybody's childhood it is it's one of the all time Wesley got the twelve year olds out there listening Harris is pretty much dame 25 to fifty what is it before he had done seller short lived twelve year old demographic spreads we do well in the middle school lunch rooms we you only write somebody said my four year old loves both the original ghostbusters that's ged says Lisa forced little young but I liked it there already appreciating that brand of comedy. Ctrl+Alt+Del. No reboot. What else we got on you can do a play on now you know when I mean I think a play on would be better than a reboot yeah came out and said look we're gonna do all you know cast which I'm a morning heard this I was like oh okay interesting Aaron if they would just played on it like being the niece of one of the characters or daughter of one of the characters. I I would be all in a 100% and still like 80% I still on and give this a chance. And I think he can be good yes and he said that looks like it has potential and I don't wanna risk ruining one of my childhood favorite movies and a lot of folks are getting tired of the reboots yeah. Somebody's oh my god there also re doing road house around Rouse the they already -- remade red dawn. They're gonna remake dirty dancing neatly radon with the war the attic and as you said they remade point break. I mean Abu we. Well I'm. Let's get on that and I think that is one of my major fears that this is that the reboots have a what was the last how many good reboots can you think in terms of movies and a lot of TV shows have been bad you just watch Fuller house and said it was awful I Natalie to five minutes of the first so there's a TV show reboot for you that was just terrible idea how many movie reboots have been that good. I don't know why so many Texans want to want to jump street between one jump street movie was funny yeah. That was in the eleven OJ ocean's eleven and go one swagger yeah I would say those two media accusing the nominee I 122 jump street to wait to jump she was funny I thought they were both pretty funny I'm with you there now so there's not very many reboots secular and that's what Hollywood is now in a story lines it's too bad honesty about I'm crossing my fingers his movie doesn't suck yeah hopefully the new laugh. Fleets of Kristen Wiig Melissa McCarthy Leslie Jones and came attending to and live up to the hype is right now they're drafted number one overall in the ghost busters draft. We'll talk me out the trailer here during the break actor and Sprague we're also act and eighty to ban it. At Peter Johnson and hampering in spring chasing quick Comcast sports net. He's gonna be on at 2 o'clock today you'll join the show from Toronto is the blazers play the raptors. I'm coming up here they got two more games on their road trip and that's will start coming up next the blazers lose to Boston last night. What do Terry Stotts make of the team's performance. And are you start to peak and a little bit of the Western Conference playoff standings that's next she actor and Sprague served up by Buffalo Wild Wings on 1080 the fan. We just did our journalistic responsibility. And duty of tweeting out the ghost busters reboot trailer actor and sprained it's out there like that out if you haven't checked out. I saw on the news this morning I was at crunch pat. Like 538 years Psycho ex your workouts and I was on the treadmill and I saw KGWs in news reports right after old pal and friend of the show drew Carney. -- -- as your attorney friend of the show where we talked him at the -- sure we milk to challenging count we milked a challenger Carney yes sadly that doesn't appear it's gonna happen again yeah others saw like legal things they won't allow us a case whenever heads it's like squashed from a thousand pound cow when he gets on there in our company's which is too darn bad because if you didn't listen that this summer we went to account -- competition we kicked -- I seriously we we dominated dominated the -- but our our rope birdied couldn't -- the big -- all he was just terrible so we were just half an -- run -- around in circles the once I think -- -- we rated out there like a NASCAR pit -- yes I saw the other trailer around TGW this morning it was closed captions like that here or send you get it saying it Jenna read along with the lines and so when I got in the -- as we all watched together the Portland Trail Blazers played their fourth game in five nights yesterday against the Boston Celtics I told you going into that game. Portland was three in ten in the end of a back to back so far this season that drops him to 311 in those scenarios. Boston was in nineteen and nine at home going in they are now 29 is the beat Portland. 116 to 93 Terry Stotts after the game on what the Celtics were able to deal. I think all night dauphin street does have put backs her similar transition Curtis and you know we got some people don't foursome bounces. Where's the balls come Basra and came up with him there is some shots kind give them some momentum but they kept the pressure us all night at both ends. Amy Willard also gave his thoughts on the Boston Celtics and. Regis did you have a little bit more her announcement tonight. They played harder to start the second half and you know we just weren't good enough you know we didn't do a lot of things we've been doing at the level that we've been doing so. He can't guard them that a team at all. Compete hard and you. Well if he can't have it you can't have just one way in sports where if they're playing well we get on the year and we tell you man I love what I'm CN I think this team can do this sending that team this team can do that. And then if they lose we just kind of gloss it over but sometimes the realities of the realities in sports of this is their fourth game and fight gas AM and that that's a brutal ask of any team I hate four games in five nights a don't like that the NBA does that to their players. But it was clear and it was evident after the first quarter Portland trying to get got out from the get go and analyze energy they went up twelve. But Boston kind of regrouped and ultimately they went up by twenty for pretty much the entire second half and they went 116. In 93. Yeah I did just ran out of gas I mean the you don't gonna stretch of fifteen at eighteen wins nine out your last ten and have that be a fluke I'm not gonna buy too much into this lawsuit. Simply was is edges of fourth game in in five nights and as you mentioned they came out had a good first quarter they seem to be playing well. And in the gas tank hit empty and it ended quotes he heard their Terry Stotts are pretty accurate when you look at kind of the hustled war I guess if you will rebounds they got out rebounded 6655. Offensive rebounds nineteen it's also Stotts is right about buckets. Where huge part of it fast break points it was 3211 Portland turn it over fourteen. Abbas only turn over five times those kind of hustle stats you look at its residency and it was fresh it was ready to go against team that was playing for the fourth time in five nights. That just slowly builds up in the scored twelve points in the third quarter. But now what I'm looking forward to his tomorrow's game in Toronto because the last time Portland lost back to back games as a pretty remarkable stallion scroll back aways. January 6 and eighth against the clippers or warriors bulk of them at home was at the last that's the last time Portland lost back to back games has been darn near two months and he's kind of blew my mind that it act crazy so I mean they're gonna try to avoid to have back to back losses tomorrow against another solid team Eastern Conference in Toronto he had just in Boston Boston played really well you got to him a lot of credit for regardless. Support lending and if they are tired Boston still came out and took advantage of it did exactly what they've done all season. And I continue to be impressed like Brad Stevens young what Boston's doing. I said he yesterday and I continue to say it Terry Stotts doesn't when it. There's obviously going to be people that wanna be really outraged by Terry Stotts maybe not winning coach the year because of what this team's expectations. We were going into where there right now but Brad Stevens is like the only other guy in the league that if he told me he wanted over Terry Stotts. I wouldn't be too upset by its eats I'd still say look Terry Stotts probably deserves it more but alternately. Brad Stevens is a one a one B situation for me with obviously Stotts being one neighbor right the Boston Celtics they're there and underrated team in my opinion I don't think they'd be quite the love that they deserve. Because defensively they play really sound and Stotts is right. They do all the little things and accordingly they have to do with that. Russell and I think eat we we kind of set a new set a lot leading up to this game last night was at Portland Abbas and or are very similar and they're just kind of under the radar teams are both led by a by great point guards Isaiah Thomas and and and Damian Miller and they're just that there's not a whole lot of household names on on either those rosters and for that reason they both teams go overlooked in. Isiah Thomas amazes me he really does I don't get a chance to watch and Anton I'm not a groupie like use I don't want to tonne a Celtics basketball. But when you look at the numbers you put enough this year 21 points a game almost seven assists. But talk about hit and misses in terms of guys he thought would turn into something or be a busted the NBA level. You tell me Isiah Thomas is doing this a couple of years into his career in the NBA out laugh fashion yeah undersized is no way to hell. Is gonna be that Cutler the NBA level need to. Continues to get better Mason glumly after the game talked of the team's execution in what they need to correct we know what. Think the coaches really highlighted that they were ahead of us have time. The easy points to put facts and on the transition points. And then we just let him get more pullbacks are more transition quite so nothing we we need seeing ago we're given the right you know. For information we just had to go around and doing we've been doing or. So there's Mason calmly after the game and it's it's kind of crazy to think about but there's only twenty games remaining in the season you're really kind of coming to a head here with that with the year in the way it's kind of flown by the last couple of months especially with the blazers winning. And I and we couldn't help but look at the standings right now and Portland just a half game back in Dallas for the succeed. Memphis I was sure that Memphis was going to fall off the thing you look at their schedule. And they play the lakers twice to play the nuggets they play teams that can have some cupcake games damn phone off and on fact they gain gain yesterday. From Portland since Portland las they won their game they are four games above Portland at that five seed and I know Oklahoma City just blew a 22 point lead. Against the clippers but if you're if you're peaking at the standings. I would much rather Portland try. As much as they can if if finishing in the playoffs in getting as far as you can is the ultimate goal you still want that five seeds still rather take your chances against the clippers in the thunder. On the end of bare minimum I think is you want to sixty EU don't want to face an anterior Golden State San Antonio doesn't get any attention because they're just boring I guessed. But their 5198. In any other season and in single and staged this year. What are your better teams in the league in not on pace to break the all time record. The spurs are the absent storied league but because of vocal states doing we tend to forget how good San Antonio is. So if you're Portland you wanted to at least get in that six Boxee can you could face Oklahoma City. But I'm with you the five C should still be the goal Memphis schedules toughen up moving forward. That's more difficult games but you'd just start to play kind of mask it in your head of all right there's twenty games left reaching these teams and say Memphis goes what twelve and eight. Yet it was sixteen in for your four games back so it's not going to be an easy road from Portland. To get F five C because like you I think everybody was expecting Memphis to take a huge step backwards without Arkansas they haven't done yet done that he had some may be in the coming weeks when their schedule softens up. They start to play below 500 basketball but that doesn't happen. Portland's looking at a date would either San Antonio or Oklahoma City in the first round playoff which by the way San Antonio first round. In defund what this say what you want about we think ultimately win the series or prozac it you don't need to say to get LaMarcus missed their 51 and nine. You never know now I'm just can I can't elect I would love I've been it would be so fun to see Portland knocked LaMarcus Aldridge out of the first round of the playoffs then that's not gonna happen I was really deciding about that no plan LaMarcus in the first round it's something managed well he didn't think was possible going in the year what I think got I've got to the point now displays a team where we we talked all season before they ended up when in 5918. Of the you know whats the better route be in a seven rates in the playoffs are being in the lottery. We kind of thought like I get a lottery pick that's better long term but now the Portland is firmly in the playoff picture which they are. There what three or so three and a half games that you cinema four games ahead Utah they're pretty solidly in the playoff picture now that the bear. You wanted to go out and had their best opportunity to win a series of that best opportunity for me is still to get the fight scene of the clippers yes things can be much worse you could be Houston Rockets you east who I'm I'm really just let out of Michael Beasley fan but I am really pulling for them to either staying needs seed or just lose out of the playoffs. As I might wanna have a segment on the Houston Rockets a real coming to god moment for the rest a couple in the NBA who tell me hungry Daryl Morey Darryl Moore is a genius sees an analytic analytics you know he understood what the three moment -- you now. No he. It on town he just went out got Michael Beasley know whether GM had the brains to make that move so the blazers lose of the Boston Celtics won sixteen in 93. The new highest paid player in the National Football League is. Silvery we have Jason quake sent to join the show today at 2 o'clock he's gonna join us from Toronto. And also give as a follow on Twitter actor and spring I can't into the office today did you and there was fully tears and it was wrong I was like well I just I really wanna promote the Twitter account today and as a wide buddy and he goes. I just because I'm lonely cell I've stopped her from crying it was volunteers drank half like that I'll take one for the team and sailors shed some tears by the way that last song. Another bad reboot. Was it blues Brothers two thousands who visit the name and a new one yet there was there was no need for the rent EI. Stagger on that that was not a good thing that's universal spot some big news came down late yesterday was kind and at the end tail end of our shows we get to it. On the ravens. Announced a contract extension for quarterback Joseph Flacco. That gives me forty million dollars signing bonus that's three million more than any other player. And now with the new money added in he makes 22 point one million. Dollar of that money so Joseph Kelly Flacco is now the highest paid player here not in the National Football League waiting chances are. That as Greg made up that last name or the middle name. I don't know about night to take a tablet about salt I'll take it Joseph. It's true is also very dull. He when you look at his regular season numbers and it none of them really stand out I mean even in the year that they won the Super Bowl. Wasn't like he went up there in two Arab League one thing he had been until this past season was consistently played sixteen games every year of his career it's on this last year was injury riddled. I knew he played ten but statistically is best year would probably be 27 touchdowns all picks that's it and that's as good as it gets for Joseph Flacco in the regular season. But what does he have the is that trump card on a lot of people which is he got extremely hot the playoffs and he led his team to and to win a Super Bowl. So I've heard a lot of conversation last point four hours about how overpaid he is it does he deserve this kind of money. You could do that for so many athletes and so many different sports. Ultimately he has a championship and that's the goal for NFL organizations he has one soul and in my book he's worth the money ravens general manager Ozzie. Newsom at the press conference is by the way Joseph Flacco showed up to the press conference he was wearing a jacket a suit jacket and I shirt. And he was rocked in some gray sweat pants so he was like half ready for a press conference to be announces the highest paid player in the NFL Ozzie Newsome the team's GM. Said this in regards to Joseph Flacco and now being the highest paid player in the league. Goes out quarterback. And we're proud I'm proud to be understated manner and thereby news organization is. I mean that that I stated before. You know teams struggle with the quarterback position armament Foley sent in Bradford and Washington avenue put to Francesca and cousins. They don't have the realism into vigilance and for us to be moving forward with a guy. There's got to eight years and one Super Bowl and and then three it's attention games this speaks volumes. So Ozzie Newsome nothing out of Baltimore Ravens. Not only explaining why Joseph Flacco gets the money he gets but also cut thrown some shots there at Philly and Washington blister I mean would you rather have Sam Bradford Joseph Flacco yet Joseph Flacco would you rather have Kirk cousins or Joseph Flacco black. ID EB did you just being on it since we are you WG CGM say that kind of stuff Flacco is 22 and 22 since winning the Super Bowl. And it kind of begs the question our teams getting ridiculous. With the cabin in terms of how they're distributing it or is he paid accordingly. Of course he's overpaid and only he deserves twenty million dollars a year at the the one thing about the contract was the highest it's not just going to Italy's highest highest paid player in the why he just give that a couple months to give that telling Andrew Luck signs his new deal and Angela can be the highest paid and I'm sure Aaron Rodgers or reopen new deal a year or two and I mean it's just a cycle hasn't been continuously. We each other you see that baseball and there's no salary cap obviously. But in free agency guys await to sign so they see what insert player here gets so he got a 185 million suite next offseason nominee get hotter 95 years. You continue to push the envelope. This thing that stands out to me about the Flacco a deal that that makes it a little questionable the only thing is the guaranteed money. And edit in terms of where rather quarterbacks stack up its not that big of the difference in terms of the annual salary for example he makes 22 million a year Philip Rivers twenty. Matt Ryan Loney Drew Brees twenty capped Cutler cousins all those guys right around 1819 million a year. The differences the guaranteed where he's Macon fourteen that's when he too was guaranteed as opposed only nine and a half rivers nine for Ryan eight for Jew breeze. But if I were to throw this out to listeners knew guys as well would you rather have. Joseph Flacco went 22 million a year or Philip Rivers of twenty million a year. I'd rather have Joseph Flacco really Odyssey well. That's interesting you would rather have Joseph Flacco at 22 million a year or Matt Bryant had twenty million Joseph Flacco for sure it Flacco or Joseph breeze at this point in his career at twenty million Flacco. So I mean it would when you throw out the term overpaid and it's my regime too that's another thing to get that I mean yeah there's all sorts of all my Malia for sure. But Joseph Flacco making 22 point one million dollar you're just tuning in it was announced yesterday that Joseph Flacco got a contract extension. From a PR forty million dollar signing bonus. And now his salary with all the contract money added in it's going to be 22 point one million which now makes him the highest paid player in league. An inning it's really tell especially recently when you think of value and worth. Mean it's hard not to think of the Super Bowl and go right was the best player that day you know it was Cameron Newton that wasn't behind him. That is true grit really well it was going in that game and that's just one game but in on that data win a championship. He was not the best player and when Joseph Flacco got to that point who was one of the if not the best player on the field and hit playoff Ryan was amazing rental like he didn't have an incomplete pass the so. Ipso its audience somebody text and you know he has the Elliott has been a feature Tex I Joseph Flacco must have the ravens ownership by the colonies who else thinks of Flacco. As worth that kind of make money the opt this thing to get stuck in with quarterbacks and money to. What are your alternatives like debt listeners probably write like this seems insanely right I understand that yes Joseph Flacco I think the best players in the league rec. He probably isn't even top fifteen and just overall football players right now we know now. It's crazy but you also say what the hell else are the ravens supposed to do we talk about the numbers and his best season of being 27 touchdowns twelve picks. Also have to remember in that scenario. How run driven that team has been over the years that struck me rate rise this is focal point of that off and yeah up until he kind of had his incident he's no longer there Justin Forsett I think what he finished with two years ago 15118. And Erie area you are really good season with the ravens they've been a really heavy run first team. And for a while there he didn't have great target. Yet you go back and look at Joseph Flacco the numbers he put up in their playoff run when they went to when the suitable 2012 they beat the colts. They beat the that was Andrew Luck rookie year I believe that they went on the road be Denver and Peyton Manning and I believe his first season in Denver they went on the road beat Tom Brady and New England. And and they beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl 3431. He completed 60% of his passes the average darn near a first down every time he completed one. Is QB rating was a 117. And in those four games C eleven touchdowns and no interceptions. So I think sometimes in sport like our best one Rondo and that is one running Leila led to a champ as as a fan base I'd pay 22 million dollars a year for that. If you what do that's the ultimate goal as a sports fan and as an organization so gesture from a year a year when he throws when he touched Johnson fourteen picks. Of course it's not where 22 million dollars a year but. I Aziz make that argument about the very zeal contract urban EO Barry Siegel one of the worst contract total baseball he got. He did in it was a terrible deal until at the end that he was a huge roll them winning a championship and if you ask any giants handled tell yet. It was worth every penny because you won a championship I don't care what he did. In the years leading Utley and I've talked to multiple giants fans and they all it means to Al consensus like you and everybody knows that the die hard giants fan always tell you. And I paid again I would. Has he helped what do privacy at this point with Flacco in this is the tough thing because of the talent around him. You paid 22 million because he got CNET wondering right. But at this point in his career yup bringing get back there what is it a gamble are you essentially gambling now with twenty million a year of saying he will get you back because when you've got to kind of money. That's the expectation it is not to be a cute little older relevant team for awhile there is no doubt about that I agree with you there in Baltimore is one of the biggest disappointments in the league this past year I had them raise your hand if you Baltimore's Super Bowl and the AFC raising my hand around her raise our hands we both picked Baltimore now. Because of how close they came the year before to beating the patriots on the road patriots on a couple of trick plays and a playoff game. And then they of course went on to win the symbols so there's no doubt they were a disappointment. He is 31 years old but. This is a guide has been to three AFC championship games he's got another 67 years of being productive that it is Lee in this league. And I have no reason to believe he can't get back to that point. Joseph Flacco 22. Point one million dollars a season should he can be a top five player in the league. You can text in the community charts I sign a 55305. 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What day hallows Baltimore doing an Ozzie Newsome the GM for the Baltimore Ravens said this at the team's press conference in regards to why they're paying in this money. Goes up quarterback. And we're proud I'm proud to be and to say that and I think they're bad news organization there's. I mean that I stated before. You know teams struggle with the quarterback position I mean Philly sent in Bradford and Washington avenue put to Francesca and cousins. They don't have the realism. I just they joyous and for us to be moving forward we're gonna. There's got to eight years and one Super Bowl and then in new three if he tension games this speaks volumes. So it speaks volumes to pay this guy that and keep him around according to the GM of the ravens. And Joseph Flacco really truly is one of those quarterbacks. And he's he's kinda in the middle for a lot of people either you think brag yes Pam what all did he can legion he's won a super bull all war. What the hell are you doing Baltimore his numbers haven't been that great part of the issue was he was coming up Horry had a huge cap number this year. So in order to go back to Joseph and say hey we want him to go to renegotiate your deal. You've got to give them a reason to do it rather than just been a nice guy for the team sold. Given the big signing bonus so I don't know so way to move money around for a lot of teams and yeah signing bonus and that's what they got to get everybody's got to be in compliance with the salary cap going in this weekend free agency starts next week in the NFL so. Some of that spat. And but I think overall you're starting to see now with these salary cap rules that it can. Seems is that still going up and up per year with all the new revenues that teams can still work their way out of bad decisions or bad contracts. That they made. I mean UC San Diego cut and Donald Butler today two years into like a five year. 57 million dollar deal or some like that so. You know they got to carry eighteen million in dead money. And so it's going to be adjusting to see if the revenue start tailing off a little bit don't grow as much and teams were those caps become. You don't get these black big jumps anymore. Elegant and I want and clarify something because we've had a few folks text in. At the mammoth HR text line and you know says so your pain summing up much mining and the ball Sony 5% of the time. Somebody else says I'm tower is Saint Louis I text him back Indies so I'm just tired quarterbacks taking all the money and fame on the defense is when and other recent Super Bowls are. Eight Flacco that kind of money is like giving Meyers Leonard a huge contract and giving CJ wine. Knowing well CJ is reason for victory are not getting CJ when he sees me. The ravens went off the defense not Flacco and links got pink black and Beckham money is too terrible to playing Dilfer like that no thanks I'm an but it is just needs to be for high eighties and it brought back in people's minds though that. When when Baltimore don't have a playoff numbers I have his playoff numbers I first let me every day in 2012 when they won the Super Bowl Baltimore's total defense. You wanna take a stab at where they ranked in the league probably top may seventeenth. We house ways so that's not Seattle Denver like we seen the last couple leaders seventeenth that's the bottom half of the leak. And Joseph Flacco in the playoffs against the colts he did not to do we think is that called steam was pretty bad. The 282 yards two touchdowns no picks there's a one in Italy and lowest is like and I knew what was he like seven he was only twelve to 23 that game in do you mind. Because they once when he 49 injury luck couldn't move the ball that was his rookie season. They go to Denver they won in overtime 331 yards three touchdowns they go to New England in the AFC championship game 240 yards three touchdowns. In the Super Bowl against the 49ers one of the best defense is the league that year. 22 with thirty is more than that probably we're the best 22 with 33287. Yards and three touchdowns I think we. We forget how good he wasn't that run if you wanna say hey that's a one off the agency got hot at the right time he's never gonna do that again. OK I guess I kind of understand that but don't act like Joseph Flacco didn't play any part them when this. Probe yet that was a huge part of back I remember watching that Super Bowl and watching the ravens come of that season and actress I couldn't believe that Joseph Flacco was playing as well as nobody is our common. I mean he was just lights out. And that defense the year right the defense wasn't that great in fact I I was thinking during that game. They're really benefiting from going against a Colin Capp burning situation and look back or no because. Happening now playing well. But cap had filled in that year that was his first year glad had a full season under his belt that was kind of his quintessential rookie season as a starting quarterback. Minus the first handful games that he didn't play so I think benefited from Napa Joseph Flacco was. A huge reason they they do much offensively in the second half but man that first there's just some added up. Either decide about Baltimore and they bubble to growing some rubles and in the early 2000 stealing years 2002000. That's the team it comes to people's minds were Trent Dilfer didn't do anything it's arguably the best defense we've ever seen assembled. In the conversation is one of the best. This team was a lot different Andy he's been to two other AFC championship games and would you just simply look at what the going rate to pay a quarterback is now. Philip Rivers there's been no one AFC title game in his in his career. Make it twenty million dollars a year Matt Ryan. We need you want to map ranked twenty million dollars a year what did you don't design for a look at much right tails making Kirk cousins is gonna make ninety million dollars this years so. 22 for Flacco it sounds outrageous and of course he's overpaid. Whole lot of athletes are overpaid but in terms of the going rate for a quarterback and it's not that outrageous point if you look at it from a different angle to of defensively. Like when JJ watt signed his monster contract right when you talk best defense of players only he's probably tops for everybody JJ watt it's easy either first or second name ID or whatever he's right he's of the top be one or two for everybody. What does that seem done. With him being paid the most money the most dominant one of the most dominant defense of players we've seen. People are comparing him to Lawrence Taylor I mean I'm sorry they fell into the division this year because the colts and deal with injuries and age is that wasn't a good division now a crappy division hasn't been a good division the colts have been the only relevant team for awhile they started off terribly they just kind of fell in a division title but before that. They they really weren't threatening when a writer still not a legitimate Super Bowl contending. Team racked and it's a big part of that is because you don't have that key person. At the quarterback position quite it's so difficult to find that got is only 32 jobs and those in in of those 32 jobs around the league how many do it and add a leak all the level maybe twelve maybe too well me and so when you get a guidance in that conversation. You just simply have to do whatever it takes a lot of Tillman unfortunately we had to have the same opinion when a guy like Ryan Daniels signed his extension last offseason in Miami was he worth that. Knoll but what's the alternative if you're Miami to scrap and start over you wanna go back in the draft and take Carson Wentz. Good luck with that bright Daniels probably better than what he's going to speak I think for a lot of people too because I you accompanist. Is. I just I watched what Von Miller did launch to a Denver's defense of line and pass rush did and you saw as bad as Peyton Manning played. And you know just being a shell of himself it didn't matter. So I think a lot of fans now because of the prices this quarterback contracts because it's going up so high. Where you mentioned interlocutor looks making at least. A thirty million dollars a year when he signs his new deal attic salary caps gonna jump up I think a lot of people look at that now on the kind of evaluating and say well are you better off. Just going all in in finding may be that ultimate Von Miller Lite player which easier said that done by the way yeah. And deceiving some cap space and may be finding a quarterback who just did chip by blood that's an that you're out that show that I talk about the engine look extension because Irsay came out and said it's going to be a you know this huge off firmer to get all this money. And that was a conversation I had was not at these salaries are getting to that point are teams get a start to change the way. That they build their roster and and at an example I throughout there was like a Kansas City. Where you go like you build great defense and trying get a good offensive line run the football. And you go get a manageable quarterback like an Alex Smith it's not gonna cost to 2526 million dollars a year I'll salesman at Linas. It's going to be insisting to see how they evaluated I think but the cap jump teams are gonna continue to throw money guys within deserving or not that's a different argument. But it's this simple when you have a quarterback. You go all lane because with that guy at the Helm especially one that's one wrangling you say yes white. This year we're gonna be assumed normal conversation say what you want and I feel like Joseph Flacco he does every he's shown that he can do a floor yep. Baltimore is gonna be right back people were healthy now. Because their quarterback is coming back give it every year with Brady you give it every year with Rogers is a long as you have stability at that position. All the other parts around you people will still saying hey guess what you're coming back yet and you've got a shot mental toughness and sports. 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